Help with Birth of George Percy Hammersley

**sarah300** · 02-10-2010 02:31 PM

George Percy Hammersley Died in Kensington in 1936. He married Lydia Cecil on December 23rd 1900 aged 22, which means he would have been born circa 1878. As far as I can tell his father may have been Joseph as on the 1911 census a Joseph Hammersley age 63 was living with George and Lydia, but i cannot find any trace of George Percys birth. Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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**Jeuel** · 02-10-2010 03:20 PM

How is Joseph's relationship described on 1911 census? And where does George say he was born? How old is he in 1911?

**Jeuel** · 02-10-2010 03:22 PM

Where did he marry Lydia?

**Jeuel** · 02-10-2010 03:25 PM

I can't see his marriage in the GRO indexes, nor can I see him on 1881 census.

**banditfivealive** · 02-10-2010 03:27 PM

Hi Sarah
at the moment I have found the foIIIowing info? Did Iydia have any Inks with the name Seymour as I saw her age 15 as a daughter in Iaw to that famiIy 1881 i think?
1901 – kent
Hammersley
George

23

Head
Joiner & Carpenter
-, London
72 Edinburgh Road, Walthamstow
RG13/1625/~F61
CD6 R13_1625.pdf p.119
Hammersley
Lydia

23

Wife
-
Bethnal Green, London
72 Edinburgh Road, Walthamstow
RG13/1625/~F61

1881 Iondon
Cecil
Jane M

39

Head
Mangler
Bethnal Green, Middlesex
8 Cottage Place, Bethnal Green, Middlesex
RG11/0426/~F22
Cecil
Emily

11

Daughter
Scholar
Bethnal Green, Middlesex
8 Cottage Place, Bethnal Green, Middlesex
RG11/0426/~F22
Cecil
Jane

8

Daughter
-
Mile End, Middlesex
8 Cottage Place, Bethnal Green, Middlesex
RG11/0426/~F22
Cecil
Lydia

3

Daughter
-
Bethnal Green, Middlesex
8 Cottage Place, Bethnal Green, Middlesex
RG11/0426/~F22

**sarah300** · 02-10-2010 03:44 PM

Yes George did marry Lydia Cecil in 1900 in the Parish Church Walthamstow her Stephfater was a Seymour.

Josephs relationship is shown as a boarder and Lydias stepsister is shown as a servant.
George age on the 1911 census is 31 he was born in Finchley, London on the 1901 census when he lived in Edinburgh Road Walthamstow, this is left blank.
On the 1991 census George and Lydia were Stewards of the Cobden Club in Kensal Road.
Prior to the marriage in 1900 I cant find any mention of George Percy I cant find any mention of him on any listings

**banditfivealive** · 02-10-2010 05:15 PM

Hi Sarah
this is what i found to Iink in with what you said
1891 ESSEX
Seymour
Henry F

48

Head
Stationer
London Bethnal Green, -
9 Cranbrook Road, Walthamstow
RG12/1353/F?
Seymour
Jane M

49

Wife
-
London Bethnal Green, -
9 Cranbrook Road, Walthamstow
RG12/1353/F?
Cecil
Jane E

18

Daughter In Law
Numerical Printer
London Mile End, -
9 Cranbrook Road, Walthamstow
RG12/1353/F?
Cecil
William F

16

Son
Machine Ruler
London Bethnal Green, -
9 Cranbrook Road, Walthamstow
RG12/1353/F?
Cecil
Lydia

15

Daughter In Law
-
London Bethnal Green, -
9 Cranbrook Road, Walthamstow
RG12/1353/F?
Seymour
Ellen H

13

Daughter
-
London Mile End, -
9 Cranbrook Road, Walthamstow
RG12/1353/F?
Seymour
Eliza G

8

Daughter
-
London Bethnal Green, -
9 Cranbrook Road, Walthamstow
RG12/1353/F?
Seymour
Jessie A

5

Daughter
-
London Bethnal Green, -
9 Cranbrook Road, Walthamstow
RG12/1353/F?

**banditfivealive** · 02-10-2010 05:44 PM

Hi Sarah
I did a search for Joseph and found this

1881 Joseph London

Hamersley
Jane

79

Head
Tailoress
Otter, Hampshire
12 James Place, Poplar, Middlesex
RG11/0508/~F20
Hamersley
Joseph

46

Son
Labourer
Rotherhithe, Surrey
12 James Place, Poplar, Middlesex
RG11/0508/~F20
Hamersley
Elizabeth J

46

Daughter
Tailoress
Rotherhithe, Surrey
12 James Place, Poplar, Middlesex
RG11/0508/~F20
Hamersley
Harriet

36

Daughter
Tailoress
Rotherhithe, Surrey
12 James Place, Poplar, Middlesex
RG11/0508/~F20
Hamersley
George

17

Grand Son
Pupil Teacher
Bromley, Middlesex
12 James Place, Poplar, Middlesex
RG11/0508/~F20

However his birth pIace and age are?

**gillian** · 02-10-2010 06:49 PM

Could be a possible -
1891 census - 7 Richmond Road Walthamstowe West Ham
Jas Hammersley 49 journeyman cabinet maker b London Islington
Alice 49 b London Holborn
Horace Wm 14 errand boy b London Hackney
Percy G 12 b Surrey Croydon
Gilbert 11 b London Peckham
Gillian

**gillian** · 02-10-2010 07:00 PM

Maybe the 'Jas' in the above was Joseph -
1881 Census - family transcribed as Hammersby - 5 Richmond Terrace Bynes Road Croydon
Joseph 32 joiner b Islington
Eliza M 32 draper b Dover Kent
Horace W 4 b Middlesex Hackney
Percy G 2 b Croydon Surrey
Gilbert 1 b Croydon Surrey
Gillian

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