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    Default George William Warren is causing me big problems - any help would be apperciated....

    Hi
    I am trying to trace the above chappie.
    His details .... b abt. 1851 in Islington London. He marreid Elizabeth Hannah Howell although not able to locate the marriage (but I have their sons birth certificate of which I have taken the information from).
    Their son George William Warren (although the spelling of his surname seems to change to WarrAn). He was born 1883 Deptford london. He married a Florence Victoria Bowles in 1906 (Dec) in Deptford.
    I think I have found suppporting documents such as 1891 & 1901 census, he George William Snr, dosent always use his first name from what can find - but maybe I am wrong.
    Any help would be apperciated - thanking you for your time in advance.
    Clare

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    Hello

    St John HORSLEYDOWN
    28/05/1882 by Banns

    WARREN George Wm 21 bach coal porter 35 Gainsford St s/o Henry Coal Merchant
    HOWELL Elizabeth Ann 20 sp 8 New Lane d/o John a cooper
    GWW signs witnesses: both mark X William HOWELL
    EAH X Hannah Rose Eleanor WILIAMS

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    Thank you so much - have been trying to find this for hours this evening - but just couldnt see it - thanks again. Just trying to find more info on George William Warren, as I dont seem to be able to go any further back - If you see any thing (eg a census tha may contain his parents names / origins I would truly appreciate it.
    Thank you again
    Clare

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    Hello

    Sometimes a fresh pair of eyes helps!

    Just looking, what are the children of the family names and year of birth

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    I've just noticed you have posted a year of birth for GWW as 1851 whereas marriage cert suggests 1861?

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    For George William Warren I do not know of any siblings names, sorry. All I have are details from certificates which have been photocopied and passed to me. I know that George William had seven children.
    Eliza Warren b 1881
    George William Warran 1883 - 1961
    Frederick Warren b.1884
    James Warren b.1886
    Rachel Warren b.1888
    Charlote Warren b.1890 - 1931
    John Warren b.1900
    Sorry to be vauge - maybe this is where I am having trouble - but seem to have gone so far back - and now stuck
    Thank you again
    Clare

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    He seems to be quiet a cheecky chappie as on occasions he seems to have 'dropped' his first name - prefering to be known as William only, maybe this is the case here as well - maybe trying to make himself more of a 'catch' by being younger?

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    Ok
    The marriage is correct on the info given

    George WARREN b1883 can be found with Henry & Susan WARRREN at
    1901 RG13 524 9 9 desc as nephew aged 18
    1891 RG12 0495 desc as grandosn aged 8

    I presume you have the family info from the above census Butterflying as tired...... if no one else picks up i will look again....

    Presumably his parents George Wm & Elizabeth A are not on the scene for whatever reason!

    The 1871 RG10 744
    Henry WARRAN b Prittlewell Essex
    Elizabeth ? Is she Elizabeth Susanna? Eastwood
    Eliza 9
    George 7
    Harry 5
    Alice 3 all b Deptford

    JUMPING back to 1851 H107 1777 Prittlewell Essex, Henry is a boy of 14 Ag Lab s/o Goerge 41 Prittlewell & Judith 40 b Shopland Essex...+ other siblings.....

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    Hello

    I do not think the William & Eliza and children at #6 are your family.....

    Marriage 25/12/1906 St Paul Deptford
    by BANNS

    WARRAN George William Bach 23 Carman 31 Napier Street s/o George Dock Lab'r
    BOWLES Florence Victoria Sp 19 33 Napier Street d/o William John Platelayer
    couple sign witnesses Joseph James CADMAN & Rosina STANTON both sign

    1901 RG13 524
    84 Abinger Road Deptfrod
    WARREN Henry 64 Coal Dealer Prittlewell
    WARREN Susan 63 Eastwood
    WARREN George nephew 18 Coal Lab DEPTFORD

    1891
    RG12 495 116 3
    19 NAPIER STREET
    WARREN Henry 54 Coal Merchant Prittlewell
    WARREN Susan 55 Eastwood
    WARREN William 19 Ass't to Coal Merchant Deptford
    WARREN George 8 grandson Deptford

    1881 RG11 704
    9 Napier Street
    WARREN Henry 40 Coal dealer Prittlewell Essex
    WARREN Elizabeth 43 Eastwood Essex
    WARREN George 17 Lab'r children all b Deptford
    WARREN Harry 15 lab'r
    WARREN Elizabeth 13
    WARREN William 9
    WARREN Alice 4

    1871 as #8 but exclude Alice who hadn't been born!

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    1891
    RG12 495 74 14
    31 Henry Street
    WARREN George 1861 Gen Lab Deptford
    WARREN Elizabeth Ann 1860 Wood chopper Deptford
    WARREN Eliza 1899 Deptford

    1901
    RG13 523 132 29
    43 Hyde Street
    WARRAN George 37 Dock Labourer All b Deptford
    WARRAN Lizzie 38
    WARRAN Eliza 12
    WARRAN William 8
    WARRAN Charles (James)5
    WARRAN Thomas ( William )8m

    WARRAN Henry Arthur 1903 residing 31 Napier Street

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