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    Default Temple Family from the East End of London and Kent

    HI I wonder if anyone can please help me, I am getting so frustrated. I am trying to trace my fathers line but have drawn a complete blank. I am at a loss as to where to look from here. Here are the details I have so far, It is from the William Temple (married to Elizabeth) that I have drawn a blank.

    I do hope someone can help me.
    Thanks very much

    Fazerman

    1. William Temple died on an unknown date. He married Elisabeth Lester. Elisabeth was born in 1839 in Deptford London and died on an unknown date.

    Children of William Temple and Elisabeth Lester
    i. William Temple was born in 1858 in Milton Gravesend Kent and died on an unknown
    date.

    William Temple was born in 1858 in Milton Gravesend Kent and died on an unknown date. He married Fanny Dixey 11th February 1883 in The Parish Church Poplar. Fanny, daughter of George Dixey and Rosena Leighorn, was born in 1866 in Dorchester and died on an unknown date.

    Children of William Temple and Fanny Dixey
    i. George William Temple was born in 1885 in Poplar East London and died in 1930 in 3a
    Devon Road Poplar. (My Grand father).
    ii. Charles H Temple was born in 1883 in Poplar Millwall and died on an unknown date.
    iii. William Temple was born in 1888 in Poplar Millwall and died on an unknown date.
    iv. Ada Daisy Temple was born in 1894 in Poplar Millwall and died on an unknown date.
    v. Harriet Amy Temple was born in 1896 in Poplar Millwall and died on an unknown date.
    vi. Henry Temple was born in 1901 in Poplar Millwall and died on an unknown date.


    George William Temple was born in 1885 in Poplar East London and died in 1930 in 3a Devon Road Poplar. He married Alice Lamport 26th December 1912 in Christchurch Poplar. Alice, daughter of Edward Lamport and Eliza Jane Watt, was born in 1889 in Poplar Millwall and died in 1960.

    Children of George William Temple and Alice Lamport
    i. Albert John Temple was born in 1928 in Bow East London and died in 1990 in Greenwich
    London. (My father).
    ii. William Temple died on an unknown date.
    iii. George Temple was born in 1926 in Poplar East London and died on an unknown date.
    iv. Gladys Temple died on an unknown date.
    v. Nellie Temple died on an unknown date.
    vi. Amy Temple.
    vii. Dolly Temple was born in 1929 in Poplar East London and died on an unknown date.
    vii. Eliza Temple died on an unknown date.

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    weel here they are in 1871 giving william seniors birth date and place and middle initial. his wife gives sheerness too. children all born deptford

    Name:William E TempleAge:48Estimated birth year:abt 1823Relation:HeadSpouse's name:Elizabeth TempleGender:MaleWhere born:Sheerness, Kent, EnglandCivil parish:LewishamEcclesiastical parish:ChristchurchTown:Forest HillCounty/Island:KentCountry:EnglandRegistration district:LewishamSub-registration district:Sydenham
    Household Members:NameAgeWilliam E Temple48Elizabeth Temple38William J Temple12Elizabeth K Temple10Katherine M Temple2Henry Temple5Frank C Temple2
    Leliles Jones28 servant Martha Hunt17James Odden45Frederick H Roberts20Joseph E Rowland22

    in 1861 elizabeth and william junior are boarders without william.

    i cannot see their marriage. i assume you got elizabeths maiden name from the chidlrens birth cert??

    Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 771; Folio: 31; Page: 1; GSU roll: 824732.

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    Hi Fazerman,
    I was born in Westham so know Poplar very well. The East London Cemetery located in Grange Rd might be worth contacting if some of your ancestors died in Poplar and the East End..If you know anyone from that area maybe they could visit the Cemetery and make some enquiries about your Temples.

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    Hello

    Not sure if you have any of the following, particularly as you do not mention William b 1858 siblings!

    Freebmd.org.uk ( prefix www.) may help in tying up some dates, I cannot find an entry for the TEMPLE / LESTER marriage

    1861 RG9 0396
    h/hold NATION
    TEMPLE Elizabeth b 1839 Visitor Barmaid Deptford
    TEMPLE William b 1858 Boarder Milton Kent

    1871 RG 0771
    Devonshire House
    Sydenham Lewisham

    TEMPLE William 48 Grocer Deptford Kent
    TEMPLE Elizabeth 38 Deptford Kent
    TEMPLE William J 12 Scholar Deptford Kent
    TEMPLE Elizabeth K 10 Deptford Kent
    TEMPLE Katherine M 9 Deptford Kent
    TEMPLE Henry 5 Deptford Kent
    TEMPLE Frank C 2 Deptford Kent
    JONES Letitia 28 Gen serv Wales
    HUNT Martha 17 Gen Serv Brighton
    BADEN James 45 Grocer Shopman Great Chart Kent
    ROLAND Frederick 28 Grocer Shopman Plymouth
    ROWLAND Joseph 22 Grocer Shopman Newton Dorset

    1881
    RG 11 0747
    Woolwich
    TEMPLE William 22 Grocers Assist

    1881
    RG12 1045
    Threeleg Cross Ticehurst ( fits in with his desc on sons marriage as licensed Vivtualler)

    TEMPLE William 53 Clerk Isle of Sheppey Kent
    TEMPLE Elizabeth 48 Deptford Kent
    TEMPLE Elizabeth CC 20 Deptford Kent
    TEMPLE Katherine M 19 Deptford Kent
    TEMPLE Henry 15 Deptford Kent
    TEMPLE Frank C 12 Deptford Kent
    TEMPLE Lilian 7 Camberwell
    TEMPLE Florence 4 Ticehurst

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    Thanks for you help. This ties up a few loose ends. We believe that William and Elizabeth may not have been married!! Just one more query. I would now like to to try and trace William senior back. He was born in or around 1823, is it possible to search records back this far? Someone told me that you can't go back further than 1837? If so what do I need to do??

    Thanks

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    Hello

    You may need to repost some of your original query.....

    The registration system as we know it commenced on the 1 July 1837, prior to thsi date we are dependent on Parish records (PR), as recorded by the Vicar, with local notes at the time of the event.

    Each year these were copied ( excl the local notes) and frowarded to the Bishops office. These are known as the Bishops Transcripts (BT's)

    The LDS have copied these, forming the basis of the IGI ( Internatioanal Genealogical Index) they can be searched at familysearch.org ( pre fix www.) The original records can be ordered and viewed at their Centres, or you can see them at local record office...... ( local to the area tyou are researching in)

    This site may assit you further genuki.co.uk ( prefix www.).

    Confused.....just post

    elsabels

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    HI Esabels
    Thanks for you help. I was kindly given this info about William senior born about 1823.
    Name:William E Temple Age:48 Estimated birth year:abt 1823 Relation:Head Spouse's name:Elizabeth Temple Gender:Male Where born:Sheerness, Kent, England Civil parish:LewishamEcclesiastical parish:ChristchurchTown:Forest HillCounty/Island:KentCountry:EnglandRegistration district:LewishamSub-registration district:Sydenham
    Household Members:NameAgeWilliam E Temple 48 Elizabeth Temple38 William J Temple 12 Elizabeth K Temple10 Katherine M Temple2
    Henry Temple5 Frank C Temple2

    Can you tell me would I now have to find a LDS centre nearby and take this info to go back further for William E Temple? Sorry if I am sounding a bit thick.

    Fazerman

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    Hey we all have to start with the questions at some point....

    on the familysearch.org site, select LIBRARY on the tool bar hopefully there is a centre close to your home.......


    elsabels

 

 

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