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  1. 11-08-2010 08:29 PM #1
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    Hi everyone,

    would anybody be able to help me please, My G.G.Grandad Thomas Hillier lived in Manchester -was a Tailor by trade- was married to Ellen e. Howell and also died in Manchester I think but, I have been trying to find which is the correct birth for him so I can order a birth cert. The only snag is 1 census says he was born in Devizes Wilts 1841 and another census says he was born in Pewsey Wilts 1841. Iv been searching through numerous sites for over a yr now but Im none the wiser. There are 2 entries on FreeBMD and WiltsBMD one born June 1841 and one born Sept 1841 -then to top it all off there is an entry on Anc which says a Thomas Hiller was born in March 1841....are you keeping up!!!!!! Its a nightmare
    I even bought the marriage cert which said his father was called George and I thought bingo! Iv cracked it, all I have to do is order the two birth certs from June & Sept and who ever has the father on named George thats the one But, 1) they could both have George on them 2) the other entry in March with a father named George on it left me even more confused. I cant really afford to but all 3 certs and if they all have father on named George Im still left wondering which one is my GG Grandad....Can anyone please help?
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    I found your Thomas on the 1881 census living at 14 Daisey Street Hulme Manchester. It states he is a Tailor. Wife Ellen and children Frederick, William, Harriett, Eleanor, Mary Alice and Elizabeth E. It states he was born in Pewsey Wiltshire.

    The other Thomas Hillier born in Wiltshire is an Ag Laborer and it says his wife is Elizabeth and he was born in Granham Wiltshire.

    I then did a search on the 1881 census for Thomas Hillier birth in Wiltshire year ranges 1839 to 1843 and there are only 6 entries and only one is living in Lancashire and the one from Pewsey is the only Tailor.

    This information I found on IGI. Hope it helps.
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    Send a PM to Noggin28...he has the same family interest as yourself,



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    Quote Originally Posted by Elsabels View Post
    Send a PM to Noggin28...he has the same family interest as yourself,



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    Just want to say thankyou to Kate and Elsabels for their mess-

    Iv never sent a private messs on here Im not sure how to do it-can you advise me please- thanks
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    Hello

    I have sent an e mail to Noggin28 letting him know what I posted....however go to your account, top left sub heading on this page, click, look on left hand side, scroll down until 4 'black headings' you see 'send new message' click and follow through

    We all have to learn......

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    In 1871 Thomas Hillier, Tailor, was living in 54 Edge Street, Hulme. Place of birth Pewsey Wiltshire. Also in the same household was his wife Ellen and sons, Frederick and William George plus Ellen's mother and sister, Harriet and Elizabeth Howell. All tailor/ess.

    This is the only reg for a Thomas Hillier in Pewsey I could find.
    England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915

    Name:Thomas HillierYear of Registration:1841Quarter of Registration:Apr-May-JunDistrict:PewseyCounty:WiltshireVolume:8Page:395
    '' No one knows who we are or where we are going until we have been and gone ''.

    Researching the following families;
    Kitchin & Sharpe, Cumberland, Canada, USA : Dixon, Lancashire, Westmorland, USA
    Fell & Hanslow, Warwickshire, Staffordshire, USA Australia.
    Guess, Buckinghamshire : Meakins, Northamptonshire

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    Could this be your Thomas?

    1851 England Census
    Name: Thomas Hillier Age: 12 Estimated birth year: abt 1839
    Relation: Pauper Gender: Male
    Where born: Pewsey, Wiltshire, England
    Civil parish: Devizes St James County/Island: Wiltshire
    Registration district: Devizes Sub-registration district: Bishops Cannings
    ED, institution, or vessel: Devizes Union Workhouse
    Household schedule number: 1
    William Hillier 15 Thomas Hillier 12*
    * Both stated as sons of Agr lab.
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    Kitchin & Sharpe, Cumberland, Canada, USA : Dixon, Lancashire, Westmorland, USA
    Fell & Hanslow, Warwickshire, Staffordshire, USA Australia.
    Guess, Buckinghamshire : Meakins, Northamptonshire

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    From FamilySearch Record Search

    Name: Thomas Hillier
    Gender: Male
    Baptism/Christening Date: 12 Apr 1841
    Baptism/Christening Place: Woodborough**, Wiltshire, England
    Father's Name: George Hillier
    Mother's Name: Keziah
    Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I05032-3
    System Origin: England-EASy
    Source Film Number: 1279440
    Reference Number: item 19 p 42
    Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

    ** Woodborough is about 5 Miles from Pewsey.

    Name: William Hillier
    Baptism/Christening Date: 25 Nov 1838
    Baptism/Christening Place: Woodborough, Wiltshire, England
    Father's Name: George Hillier
    Mother's Name: Keziah
    Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I05032-3
    System Origin: England-EASy
    Source Film Number: 1279440
    Reference Number: item 19 p 37
    Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

    Could this be William and Thomas's christenings?

    Groom's Name: George Hillier
    Bride's Name: Keziah Chandler:
    Marriage Date: 21 Nov 1836
    Marriage Place: Woodborough, Wiltshire, England
    Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I05032-3
    System Origin: England-EASy
    Source Film Number: 1279440
    Reference Number: item 19 p 24
    Collection: England Marriages, 1538–1973
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    Kitchin & Sharpe, Cumberland, Canada, USA : Dixon, Lancashire, Westmorland, USA
    Fell & Hanslow, Warwickshire, Staffordshire, USA Australia.
    Guess, Buckinghamshire : Meakins, Northamptonshire

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    Hi Noggin 28,

    Thankyou so much for all the info you have looked up I really appreciate it. have you specially looked this up for me or is the Hillier family connected to yourself?
    I'm still a bit bit confused as to which Thomas Hillier it could be but it's looking like the Pewsey one may be favourite. I'll dig a bit deeper but will let you know when I find anything-it'll be like winning the lottery ha ha ha.

    Thanks Noggin28

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    Thankyou so much for all the info you have looked up I really appreciate it. have you specially looked this up for me or is the Hillier family connected to yourself?
    I'm still a bit bit confused as to which Thomas Hillier it could be but it's looking like the Pewsey one may be favourite. I'll dig a bit deeper but will let you know when I find anything-it'll be like winning the lottery ha ha ha.

    Thanks Noggin28

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    England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915


    Name:Kezia HillierYear of Registration:1841Quarter of Registration:Apr-May-JunDistrict:PewseyCounty:WiltshireVolume:8Page:275
    Looks like Kezia(h) died giving birth to Thomas.
    If it was me I would gamble on the Thomas born 1841 Pewsey.

    I have PM you.

    This looks as though it could be the family. Thomas living with Carpet family. Poss nursing child following the death of his mother. Father George and brother in same street but at different house.

    1841 census Honey Street, Woodborough
    CARPET, Thomas 1811
    CARPET, Martha 1806
    CARPET, George 1841 10 weeks
    HILLIAR, Thomas 1841 10 weeks

    On the same page:
    HILLIER, Geor M 45 1796 Shoe maker
    HILLIER, William M 2 1839
    Last edited by noggin28; 14-08-2010 at 10:40 AM.
    '' No one knows who we are or where we are going until we have been and gone ''.

    Researching the following families;
    Kitchin & Sharpe, Cumberland, Canada, USA : Dixon, Lancashire, Westmorland, USA
    Fell & Hanslow, Warwickshire, Staffordshire, USA Australia.
    Guess, Buckinghamshire : Meakins, Northamptonshire

    Census data courtesy & Copyright, of the UK National Archives
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