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    Default Henry/Harry Sowden 1881-1942

    Okay Supersleuths.

    Here is the problem.

    I would dearly love to know where he's hiding in 1901.

    1. In 1924 Violet Lilian May Souden b 1902 Windsor at her marriage to Albert Sudlow in Windsor stated her father was Henry Souden, a General Labourer.

    2. Violet's mother was Rose Lilian Joel b 1885 Windsor. She married Henry Sowden, a Groom who was aged 20.

    3. His father is said to be William deceased, a Coachman. That's wishful thinking as he was a Shepherd, a Brickie's Labourer and an Ag Lab.

    4. Harry Sowden appears aged 9 in the 91 Census for 17 Athertons Yard, Brocus Street, Eton, Buckinghamshire, supposedly born in Winkfield, Berkshire. He is with William as daddy who conveniently dies in 1893 to keep the "facts", as stated, authentic. He has two siblings born in Winkfield also.

    5. In 1881 William is in Winkfield, so the odds are in favour..... however Births Sep 1881 Sowden Harry Easthampstead which covers Warfield where a couple of his siblings were born.

    6. Henry's marriage to Rose is the only Sowden/Joel nuptuals and there were Sowden Joel babies being born in Windsor and Eton as late as 1929.

    7. Rose died Eton in 1939 aged 54, and Harry Sowden dies in Sep Qtr 1942 aged 62 in Windsor which agree with their births.

    I have tried SODEN; SOWDEN; SOUDEN,; *DEN; *DON all to no avail. I have access to both Findmypast and Ancestry.

    I need someone else's take on it.

    Thank you all

    Mark
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    Quote Originally Posted by markf View Post
    Okay Supersleuths.

    Here is the problem.

    I would dearly love to know where he's hiding in 1901.

    1. In 1924 Violet Lilian May Souden b 1902 Windsor at her marriage to Albert Sudlow in Windsor stated her father was Henry Souden, a General Labourer. Have you found on 1911 census?

    2. Violet's mother was Rose Lilian Joel b 1885 Windsor. She married Henry Sowden, a Groom who was aged 20. 1901 RG13 1170 shown as JAEL

    3. His father is said to be William deceased, a Coachman. That's wishful thinking as he was a Shepherd, a Brickie's Labourer and an Ag Lab.

    4. Harry Sowden appears aged 9 in the 91 Census for 17 Athertons Yard, Brocus Street, Eton, Buckinghamshire, supposedly born in Winkfield, Berkshire. He is with William as daddy who conveniently dies in 1893 to keep the "facts", as stated, authentic. He has two siblings born in Winkfield also. Parents and other siblings address 17 Boat House Street ( on prev page)

    5. In 1881 William is in Winkfield, so the odds are in favour..... however Births Sep 1881 Sowden Harry Easthampstead which covers Warfield where a couple of his siblings were born.Easthampstead the registration district covering BINFIELD: CROWTHORNE: SANDHURST: WARFIELD: EASTHAMPSTEAD

    6. Henry's marriage to Rose is the only Sowden/Joel nuptuals and there were Sowden Joel babies being born in Windsor and Eton as late as 1929.

    7. Rose died Eton in 1939 aged 54, and Harry Sowden dies in Sep Qtr 1942 aged 62 in Windsor which agree with their births.

    I have tried SODEN; SOWDEN; SOUDEN,; *DEN; *DON all to no avail. I have access to both Findmypast and Ancestry.

    I need someone else's take on it.

    Thank you all

    Mark
    Mark I have used The genealogist, on a filter basis and can find most of the siblings and parents BUT not elusive HARRY, on searching Henry b Winkfield 1881 a Henry MACKWHEY comes up at RG13 1168 Royal Mews Windsor!!!!

    elsabels

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elsabels View Post
    Mark I have used The genealogist, on a filter basis and can find most of the siblings and parents BUT not elusive HARRY, on searching Henry b Winkfield 1881 a Henry MACKWHEY comes up at RG13 1168 Royal Mews Windsor!!!!
    elsabels
    Thank you Elsa.

    1. I haven't found Violet or Harry/Henry in 1911 nor H in 1901

    2 That is Jane Joel nee Vaughan, Rose's mother

    4 & 5 Agreed

    Windsor is a garrison town and Aldershot is no distance a way.

    I's a pain!!

    Mark

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    Default Judy

    Hello Mark

    By chance, I came across your message, and not sure who you are, but I am one of Harry Sowden's grand-daughters. I wondered if you might be related and by whom. His son Wally was my wonderful father.

    I wonder if Harry was at the second Boer War in 1901?

    I'm trying to remember things my aunties would have said in the past, but won't write any more until I hear back..

    Judy

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    Hi Judy

    Welcome to Ancestry Aid... there are nice helpful people on here!!

    Only just found your post, as I have been busy doing another pedigree.

    My brother-in-law Bob died in July and I was trying to find his family, for a daughter he had only recently found.

    Violet, Harry's daughter, b 1902 was Bob's grandmother.

    That would explain a lot if he was abroad, which I did suspect because of the military proximity.

    I think this is the line... correct me if I'm wrong, please.

    England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
    Name: Violet L M Sudlow
    Death Registration Month/Year: Jun Qtr 1941
    Age at death (estimated): 39
    Registration district: Windsor
    Inferred County: Berkshire
    Volume: 2c
    Page: 1074

    England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
    Name: Violet L M Souden
    Spouse Surname: Sudlow
    Date of Registration: 20 Nov 1924
    Registration district: Windsor
    Registration county (inferred): Berkshire
    Volume Number: 2c
    Page Number: 1244

    From her marriage certificate Violet L M Souden , a spinster, is living at 163 Arthur Road, Windsor, Berkshire, and is a Factory Packer aged 22 years. She states her father is Henry Souden, a General Labourer.


    Births Jun Qtr 1902
    Sowden Violet May Windsor 2c 440


    Henry / Harry Souden


    England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
    Name: Harry Sowden
    Death Registration Month/Year: Sep Qtr 1942
    Age at death (estimated): 62
    Registration district: Windsor
    Inferred County: Berkshire
    Volume: 2c
    Page: 513



    Marriages Jun Qtr 1902
    Joel Rose Windsor 2c 881
    Sowden Henry Windsor 2c 881





    From his marriage certificate Henry Sowden , a bachelor, is living at 6 Keppel Street, Windsor, Berkshire and is a Groom aged 20 years. He states his father is William Sowden [deceased], a Coachman.


    Births Sep Qtr 1881
    Sowden Harry Easthampstead 2c 414


    William Sowden


    Deaths Jun Qtr 1893
    Sowden William aged 48 Eton 3a 365


    Marriages Dec Qtr 1864
    Soden William Wokingham 2c 779
    Cox Jane Wokingham 2c 779

    IGI Individual Record
    Search Results
    William Soden
    Event(s):
    Birth: 13 FEB 1842 Hook Norton,Oxon, , Oxford, England
    Parents:
    Father: John Soden
    Mother: Martha South
    Source Information: No source information is available.


    Mark ;-)

 

 

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