died, divorced or bigamy ???
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Can anyone help?
Charles john Gatton married Sarah Francis Johnson in grimsby in 1887
had four children the youngest born in 1893 the last census record for them is 1891.
Sarah then married William Edward Jackson in grimsby in 1896 but I cant find a death for charles, the only charles john gatton I can find died in Hull in 1945
this would make him alive when sarah remarried. Could they have divorced or is it likely to be bigamy?
Any help welcome
thanks Jayne
He might have died elsewhere or his name been mistranscribed in the death indexes. He may have deserted his wife - I think if a person is missing for 7 years they can be declared dead. He might have left the country.Why do you think the 1945 death isn't him?Or she may have committed bigamy - have you got the marriage cert and if so what does she say her marital status is and what name(s) does she give?
Hi Jayne,
What was the occupation of Charles when he married ? Most of the ones in Grimsby in my tree worked on Ships. A couple were taken off the ship with Cholera (I think it was, without checking), and died near different ports.
hiOriginally Posted by Starlight
I do not have the marriage certificate, but got the following details from lincs Lady.
on Sarahs second marriage certificate she married as Sarah Johnson (her maiden name) and her father was down as John Jackson ( not her Father )
two of her childrens marriages Charles John Gatton is down as the father in 1907 and 1912 but not the other two in 1910 and 1921 . thats what makes me think he was still alive.I can not find him on the 1901 0r 1911 census. but only one death record for charles john in 1945. He was a fisherman so could have been out of the country when the census was taken
thanks Jayne
Is this your family in 1891:
IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles
Charles John Gatton Male
Parents: Father: Charles John Gatton
Marriages: Spouse: Sarah Johnson
Marriage: 19 JUN 1887 St James', Great Grimsby, Lincoln, England
Could not find this marriage in BMD's index, do you have a copy?
1891 England Census
Name: Sarah Gatton Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Charles J Gender: Female
Where born: Marsh Chapel, Lincolnshire, England
Civil parish: Great Grimsby Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
Town: Grimsby County/Island: Lincolnshire
Street Address: Back 85, Duncombe Street, Great Grimsby Occupation: Fisherman
Registration district: Caistor
Sub-registration district: Great Grimsby
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Charles J Gatton 32 born Greenwich Kent
Sarah Gatton 24 Marsh Chapel, Lincolnshire
Lillian Gatton 3 Minnie Gatton 2 both born Grimsby
Is this one of the sons:
Charle William Gatton b 1893 - 1980
WWI 40643 Lincolnshire Reg.
next of kin listed as:
W E Jackson and Sarah Jackson. Beedham Gate House, Fish Dock Road, Grimsby
Last edited by noggin28; 29-07-2010 at 12:51 PM.
'' No one knows who we are or where we are going until we have been and gone ''.
Researching the following families;
Kitchin & Sharpe, Cumberland, Canada, USA : Dixon, Lancashire, Westmorland, USA
Fell & Hanslow, Warwickshire, Staffordshire, USA Australia.
Guess, Buckinghamshire : Meakins, Northamptonshire
Census data courtesy & Copyright, of the UK National Archives
What would make me think he was still alive is Sarah marrying again as though she was a spinster instead of a widow!
If he was a fisherman I suppose there's always the possibility that he died at sea. In some cases the bodies weren't recovered or washed up until some time after death, when they'd be unrecognisable.
yes thats the right family
I've got all those details but thanks anyway
jayne
BMD Marriage Sarah Johnson to Charles John Gatton Caister 7a 1283 2Q 1887
England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
Name: William Edward Jackson Year of Registration: 1896
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Caistor
County: Lincolnshire Volume: 7a Page: 901
Sarah Johnson
Charles William Gatton was born in 1893 which would suggest Charles John was still alive up to 1892/93. I cannot find a death between 1893 - 1896.
The Charles John Gatton who died in hull 1945 is not the right person because he was born in 1868 not 1858.
Have you tried Military or Immigration & Travel
Last edited by noggin28; 29-07-2010 at 07:33 PM.
'' No one knows who we are or where we are going until we have been and gone ''.
Researching the following families;
Kitchin & Sharpe, Cumberland, Canada, USA : Dixon, Lancashire, Westmorland, USA
Fell & Hanslow, Warwickshire, Staffordshire, USA Australia.
Guess, Buckinghamshire : Meakins, Northamptonshire
Census data courtesy & Copyright, of the UK National Archives
even more puzzled now!!
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