Thread: Charles Thomas Page, died either in transit (on a ship) or in Jamaica

Charles Thomas Page died either in 1935 or in 1936 either on a ship (he worked on a steamship as a cook), or in Jamaica, as he is buried there. He was married to Ellen Page (formerly Horobin), they married in 1925 in Liverpool, UK. And he lived in Liverpool when he wasn't working.

That is all the information I have. Can someone help me find a death certificate for him? I am really struggling.

If he died on board ship, unless they were coming into harbour or had means of preserving the body, they'd have buried him at sea, so I'm thinking its more likely he died in Jamaica.

Not sure where registers of deaths in Jamaica are - but I assume you can check the overseas deaths indexes on FMP I think.

Originally Posted by Jeuel

If he died on board ship, unless they were coming into harbour or had means of preserving the body, they'd have buried him at sea, so I'm thinking its more likely he died in Jamaica.

Not sure where registers of deaths in Jamaica are - but I assume you can check the overseas deaths indexes on FMP I think.

I looked at "British Overseas Deaths" but the only sub-category he'd fit into in that category is "Deaths Abroad". But that particular register is from 1966 onwards. What should I do?

Do you know where in Jamaica he is buried? The burial register should give his date of death or at least of burial and might include the cause.

[Charles Thomas Page died either in 1935 or in 1936 either on a ship (he worked on a steamship as a cook)"]



How old was he when he died? Do you know the name of the ship? Could it have been the Ashantian?

No I don't know the name of the ship. But it was 1935 or 1936, so it couldn't have been that ship. I do not know where in Jamaica he is buried. He died of malaria.

Originally Posted by SuperFuzz

No I don't know the name of the ship. But it was 1935 or 1936, so it couldn't have been that ship. I do not know where in Jamaica he is buried. He died of malaria.

Not sure why you think that it can't be the Ashantian because of the date - SS Ashantian 2 was built in 1935 and torpedoed 1943 - it's just that I have a reference for a C T Page dying on this steamship in 1936/37 - if you have his approx. age at death I would be happy to cross-reference for you.

Well, the thing is I am not sure how old he was. Our family doesn't know. I found one record on Ancestry.co.uk in the birth records, which says a Charles Thomas Page was born in Liverpool in 1884. I think it's him. So if that is him, then he would have been about 52 when he died. But I am not sure if this record is him. I'd be delighted if you could cross-reference me! It sounds like it must be him! :-D Thank you for your help btw!

So after a bit of research I think this may very well be your man - he is 51 at time of death - this is the only likely "Page" overseas death reference I have been able to find. You should be able to order the death certificate from the GRO using the following reference – might be worth giving them a call rather than trying to do it on-line!

So the death is recorded in “The Marine Death Index for the years 1936 and 1937”.

Page, C. T. Age: 51 Name of Vessel: Ashantian Page 119

Checking on the Charles Thomas Page born 1884 in Liverpool, if this is your guy then this looks like his family in 1891.

Name: Charles T Page
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1884
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas T
Mother's Name: Mary A
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool
Civil parish: Liverpool

Household Members:

Name, Age

Thomas T Page, 45 B: Bermuda – British Subject - Seaman
Mary A Page, 29 - wife
Charles T Page, 7
Mary L Page, 6
William F Page, 2
Francis T Page, 7/12
John Timmerman, 58 – boarder

Further research suggests that his father may have been named Thomas Tucker Page.

Originally Posted by Geniegenie

So after a bit of research I think this may very well be your man - he is 51 at time of death - this is the only likely "Page" overseas death reference I have been able to find. You should be able to order the death certificate from the GRO using the following reference – might be worth giving them a call rather than trying to do it on-line!

So the death is recorded in “The Marine Death Index for the years 1936 and 1937”.

Page, C. T. Age: 51 Name of Vessel: Ashantian Page 119

Checking on the Charles Thomas Page born 1884 in Liverpool, if this is your guy then this looks like his family in 1891.

Name: Charles T Page
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1884
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas T
Mother's Name: Mary A
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool
Civil parish: Liverpool

Household Members:

Name, Age

Thomas T Page, 45 B: Bermuda – British Subject - Seaman
Mary A Page, 29 - wife
Charles T Page, 7
Mary L Page, 6
William F Page, 2
Francis T Page, 7/12
John Timmerman, 58 – boarder

Further research suggests that his father may have been named Thomas Tucker Page.

Thanks SO much for your help! I have a question; when ordering a death certificate for this, where it says "GRO reference" do I put “The Marine Death Index for the years 1936 and 1937”?

Also, thanks for the info about his family. On his father's info where it says "B: Bermuda - British Subject - Seaman". Does that mean he worked in Bermuda as a seaman? Or does it mean he was born in Bermuda?