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    I'm trying to find information about Winifred Roberts birth and her father James Edward Roberts.
    Winifred I believe was born in East Ham,Sussex 18-01-1909.
    James was a Licensed Victualler, and died between 1909 and 1928.
    I can't get any sense out of GRO. I've been trying for four weeks to get a birth certificate. They even quote 10 days to reply to an email.

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    Hi wjough,

    As far as I know, East Ham is in London and is now in the borough of Newham. There is a Sussex Road there. It was classed as Essex in the early 1900's

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    This is possibly her birth registration

    Births Mar 1909

    Winifred Roberts
    West Ham
    4a 254

    East Ham was in the West Ham district until 01/10/1935 when it transfered to the East Ham district

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    If you can find James on a census and get his birthyear that will help locate him in the death indexes, which will give his age at death. You could also check 1911 census to see if he was still alive then, which will also help narrow your search.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlight View Post
    This is possibly her birth registration

    Births Mar 1909

    Winifred Roberts
    West Ham
    4a 254

    East Ham was in the West Ham district until 01/10/1935 when it transfered to the East Ham district
    Thanks Starlight. I also have a reference to 4a 254 but I cannot tie this Winifred to a father unless GRO supply a birth certificate.

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    Hello

    Do you have any other family details such as siblings names dates etc. to help identify the family.

    You mention that the father was a licensed victualler, do you know the 'Inn' name......

    Anything that will assist in the search for your family.

    Elsabels

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeuel View Post
    If you can find James on a census and get his birthyear that will help locate him in the death indexes, which will give his age at death. You could also check 1911 census to see if he was still alive then, which will also help narrow your search.
    Hi Jeuel, There are three names which recurr on the 1881 and 1891 census but not on the 1911 census which makes me believe he died around 1909.
    Unfortunately this doesn't help me select which is the right one.
    wjough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elsabels View Post
    Hello

    Do you have any other family details such as siblings names dates etc. to help identify the family.

    You mention that the father was a licensed victualler, do you know the 'Inn' name......

    Anything that will assist in the search for your family.

    Elsabels
    Hi Elsabels, The only information I have is from Winifreds marriage certificate.
    Namely, in 1928 he was deceased and he had been a licensed victualler.
    The only one I have found about that time is The Cricketers, Carshalton,Surrey.A very long shot.
    wjough

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    Have you tried Trade Directories for presumably Carshalton ...

    Where did Winifred marry and who are the witnesses on the marriage cert?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elsabels View Post
    Have you tried Trade Directories for presumably Carshalton ...

    Where did Winifred marry and who are the witnesses on the marriage cert?
    Hi Elsabels,The trade directories gave me the Carshalton connection also the 1901 census but the spouse name doesn't tie up with other references to James.
    The witnesses to Winifreds marriage were my Aunt Annie (fathers side) and her husband, both long deceased. The marriage was at the Camberwell register office 28 Jan 1928.
    wjough

 

 

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