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    AA Member Senior Member Pettican82 is an unknown quantity at this point
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    Smile Sarah Pettican S.O.S!

    Hi there,

    I've been trying to find the death date of my gt-gt-grandmother, Sarah Rebecca Pettican (maiden name King). Born 12th February 1853 Deptford, London. Married my gt-gt-grandfather William Pettican (born 19th December 1848) in West Bergholt, Essex. He died in 1912 and while I am not 100% certain I believe that she didn't remarry after his death. Looking on FreeBMD (in the Lexden district where all Pettican births, deaths and marriages seem to have taken place) I've found two matches I thought might have been Sarah's death year. One in the 1st quarter of 1921 and the other in the 3rd of 1932.
    I bought the 1921 death cert only to find that the Sarah on the cert was married to a Walter Pettican and NOT my William. The 1932 date doesn't tie in with her birth year where it shows the death age?

    Am I missing something? Is anyone else able to help - it would be GREATLY appreciated.

    Thanks,

    Kiern.

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    Hi,
    I have been through the Death Index from 1901 until 1950 when Sarah would have been just short of 100 yrs old. I have compiled list of all the Petticans whose deaths were registered in Lexden during that period

    George 59 June 1902 4a 365
    Lucy Lavinia 59 Mar 1904 4a 434
    Lily Rosina 2 Dec 1905 4a 403
    Susan ?3 Dec 1905 4a 401
    James 79 June 1906 4a 361
    Percy Charles 0 Mar 1909 4a 490
    Sarah 63 Mar 1909 4a 495
    George 87 Sep 1910 4a 309
    Alfred J 25 Mar 1911 4a 458
    William 63 Sep 1912 4a 657
    Julia A 42 Mar 1913 4a 925
    Walter 74 Dec 1917 4a 779
    George 67 Sep 1918 4a 813
    Samuel 76 Jun 1920 4a 750
    Sarah 71 Mar 1921 4a 837
    Sarah R 68 Sep 1921 4a 663
    George 71 Jun 1922 4a 788
    Hannah 85 Jun 1923 4a 703
    Annie 60 Mar 1926 4a 886
    George 76 Dec 1927 4a 794
    Isaac 65 Mar 1929 4a 1424
    Ada 35 Sep 1929 4a 674
    Frank S 60 Dec 1931 4a 873
    Sarah 74 Sep 1932 4a 741
    Ernest H 68 Sep 1936 4a 774

    The only other Sarah I could find who was around the right age was Sarah 89 Mar 1939 Kensington 1a 290

    Don’t forget that the information in the entry is only as good as the person informing the Registrar of the death. Sometimes that person did not know the exact date of birth so guessed as to how old the deceased was. Not all ages are accurate.

    Also have you thought of checking the Parish Registers for Lexden. They should give the date of burial which, in turn, will give you the year of death.

    Emeltee

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    Thanks for your research Emeltee, much appreciated. I find it so strange that this has become so hard to get a clear date for. I know she had a lot of family living in Hendon, London so maybe that's where I should be checking the records to?

    All the best,
    Kiern.

    Quote Originally Posted by emeltee View Post
    Hi,
    I have been through the Death Index from 1901 until 1950 when Sarah would have been just short of 100 yrs old. I have compiled list of all the Petticans whose deaths were registered in Lexden during that period

    George 59 June 1902 4a 365
    Lucy Lavinia 59 Mar 1904 4a 434
    Lily Rosina 2 Dec 1905 4a 403
    Susan ?3 Dec 1905 4a 401
    James 79 June 1906 4a 361
    Percy Charles 0 Mar 1909 4a 490
    Sarah 63 Mar 1909 4a 495
    George 87 Sep 1910 4a 309
    Alfred J 25 Mar 1911 4a 458
    William 63 Sep 1912 4a 657
    Julia A 42 Mar 1913 4a 925
    Walter 74 Dec 1917 4a 779
    George 67 Sep 1918 4a 813
    Samuel 76 Jun 1920 4a 750
    Sarah 71 Mar 1921 4a 837
    Sarah R 68 Sep 1921 4a 663
    George 71 Jun 1922 4a 788
    Hannah 85 Jun 1923 4a 703
    Annie 60 Mar 1926 4a 886
    George 76 Dec 1927 4a 794
    Isaac 65 Mar 1929 4a 1424
    Ada 35 Sep 1929 4a 674
    Frank S 60 Dec 1931 4a 873
    Sarah 74 Sep 1932 4a 741
    Ernest H 68 Sep 1936 4a 774

    The only other Sarah I could find who was around the right age was Sarah 89 Mar 1939 Kensington 1a 290

    Don’t forget that the information in the entry is only as good as the person informing the Registrar of the death. Sometimes that person did not know the exact date of birth so guessed as to how old the deceased was. Not all ages are accurate.

    Also have you thought of checking the Parish Registers for Lexden. They should give the date of burial which, in turn, will give you the year of death.

    Emeltee

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    Hello

    There are 2 deaths registered in 1921

    Sarah PETTICAN Lexden 4a 837 q1 1921 aged 71

    Sarah R PETTICAN Lexden 4s 603 q3 1921 aged 68

    Elsabels

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    Hi both,

    I'm thinking that this one looks very promising:

    Sarah R PETTICAN Lexden 4s 603 q3 1921 aged 68

    The death date of 1921 ties in with her birthdate of 1853 being 68 years old at time of death - Lexden is the area where all my Pettican's were born, married and died and the fact that it's Sarah R ties in my Sarah REBECCA - so will get the cert and see if it's right.

    Many thanks

    Kiern.

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    I've just noticed a difference between the two Sarah R's (died 1921) that both of you found for me even though I think they are supposed to be the same person:

    One is Sarah R 68 Sep 1921 4a 663

    While the other is Sarah R PETTICAN Lexden 4s 603 q3 1921 aged 68

    I'm assuming that the top one is the correct volume and page number one as all the other deaths are listed with 4a in them rather than 4s in addition the page numbers vary so I went with the 663 one as well.

    Hope that sounds right.





    Quote Originally Posted by Pettican82 View Post
    Hi both,

    I'm thinking that this one looks very promising:

    Sarah R PETTICAN Lexden 4s 603 q3 1921 aged 68

    The death date of 1921 ties in with her birthdate of 1853 being 68 years old at time of death - Lexden is the area where all my Pettican's were born, married and died and the fact that it's Sarah R ties in my Sarah REBECCA - so will get the cert and see if it's right.

    Many thanks

    Kiern.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pettican82 View Post
    I've just noticed a difference between the two Sarah R's (died 1921) that both of you found for me even though I think they are supposed to be the same person:

    One is Sarah R 68 Sep 1921 4a 663

    While the other is Sarah R PETTICAN Lexden 4s 603 q3 1921 aged 68

    I'm assuming that the top one is the correct volume and page number one as all the other deaths are listed with 4a in them rather than 4s in addition the page numbers vary so I went with the 663 one as well.

    Hope that sounds right.

    Yes ther are two marriages both to Sarah

    1) William PETTICAN your line!
    2) Walter PETTICAN m 1868 Lexden Sarah Green

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    Thanks very much, the death cert came this morning and it is my Sarah Pettican so I have her death date which is great. How to try and find where she was buried, maybe best to contact an archives place in Essex??





    Quote Originally Posted by Elsabels View Post
    Yes ther are two marriages both to Sarah

    1) William PETTICAN your line!
    2) Walter PETTICAN m 1868 Lexden Sarah Green

 

 

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