Thread: Robert and Margaret Craven

Is anyone able to help me find these two on the 1851 census?

Robert was born in Harewood, Yorkshire c. 1823 and Margaret in Chirton Northumberland in 1824.

They married in Westminster in 1849 and their first child was born in London in 1850. I have found this child on the 1851 census - but up in Yorkshire with her grandparents - can't find her parents. I have them back together in 1871 living in Newcastle so they didn't die! I don't know why they were in London - possibly in service?

Sorry if I'm missing something obvious and thanks for any help.

[quote name='noggin28' date='07 March 2010 - 12:36 PM' timestamp='1267965409' post='216309']

1851 Census CRAVEN, Robert CHELSEA, Middlesex HO107 piece 1474 folio 31 page 54. General sevant, married. Born Yorkshire. Could this be him?

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Thank you noggin28 - it does sound exactly right - I'm guessing Margaret isn't with him at that address? Again, I've always drawn a blank when putting in her details. Wonderful to have a reference number from you - THANK YOU! (Just re-checked 1901censusonline.com and it definitely doesn't throw up this entry for 1851 - very odd - would be most grateful for the full household details if pos.)

Hello



Single line entry so presume 'flat' ? between 16 & 17 New Street Upper Chelsea



CRAVEN Robert - 27 mar GentM Servant Yorkshire Edmond



Margaret CRAVEN



This is only a possibility, I looked at the rest of the info....an 11 old as head of household left with servants!!!!!

1851 H107 2010



SUDBURY HALL http://www.derbyshireuk.net/sudbury_hall.html



Louisa Warren 11 HEAD Scholar

Frances Harris 40 U Serv Housekeeper

Margarett Craven 35 U Serv Cook

Jane Hunter 35 U Serv housemaid

Elizabeth Beck 26 U Serv housemaid

next page

Emma Copnall 18 serv u housemaid

Sarah Allen 22 serv u still room maid

Julia Hill 23 serv w scullery maid

William G Gilley 35 serv u Butcher

George Etherton 16 serv u Page boy Butcher





Margarett Craven

Age: 35

Estimated birth year: abt 1816

Relation: Servant

Gender: Female

Where born: Chester,??Transcription error Northumberland, England



Civil parish: Sudbury

County/Island: Derbyshire





Elsabels

[quote name='Elsabels' date='07 March 2010 - 04:40 PM' timestamp='1267980043' post='216335']

Hello



Single line entry so presume 'flat' ? between 16 & 17 New Street Upper Chelsea



CRAVEN Robert - 27 mar GentM Servant Yorkshire Edmond



Margaret CRAVEN



This is only a possibility, I looked at the rest of the info....an 11 old as head of household left with servants!!!!!

1851 H107 2010



SUDBURY HALL http://www.derbyshireuk.net/sudbury_hall.html



Louisa Warren 11 HEAD Scholar

Frances Harris 40 U Serv Housekeeper

Margarett Craven 35 U Serv Cook

Jane Hunter 35 U Serv housemaid

Elizabeth Beck 26 U Serv housemaid

next page

Emma Copnall 18 serv u housemaid

Sarah Allen 22 serv u still room maid

Julia Hill 23 serv w scullery maid

William G Gilley 35 serv u Butcher

George Etherton 16 serv u Page boy Butcher





Margarett Craven

Age: 35

Estimated birth year: abt 1816

Relation: Servant

Gender: Female

Where born: Chester,??Transcription error Northumberland, England



Civil parish: Sudbury

County/Island: Derbyshire





Elsabels

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Fascinating stuff Elsabels! It's not difficult to imagine Chester and Chirton being confused ... just a bit old at 35, even allowing for roundings, as she was actually 26/7. However, certainly merits further investigation and a much closer match than I've come up with to date. Appreciate your time and help. Many thanks!

Hello



if you look at the actual census, the place is not Chester it is CHRITON a transcription error, the age is a iffy looking 25 /35 but if you campare 2/3 on the page then it could be your ancestor!



Elsabels

[quote name='Elsabels' date='07 March 2010 - 10:40 PM' timestamp='1268001656' post='216370']

Hello



if you look at the actual census, the place is not Chester it is CHRITON a transcription error, the age is a iffy looking 25 /35 but if you campare 2/3 on the page then it could be your ancestor!



Elsabels

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Thank you Elsabels - there are too many coincidences for it not to be her - I'm not sure I would ever have found her with a transcription error in both the place of birth and age - I take my hat off to your detective work!!! THANK YOU

Cheers, just think of the Lords and Ladies aleaping, and what a fantastic place to live even if you were 'below' stairs!







Elsabels