Thread: frederic Drake

Im trying to find a Frederic Drake b. 1828c He was at home in Acle Norfolk 1841 as yet not known if born Norfolk . cannot find him 1851 . Was not mentioned in Fathers will when he died but neither was his brother John George . so not sure if he did die



Father Spencer Drake occ Navy



John became a miller in usa



Other two sons went to South Africa





Two children of this family not b. NFK - eldest b. Eastbourne 2nd Daughter Eliza charlotte not known John George b. 1831 was bp Acle .



Any ideas or help would be most welcomed

Hi Chris,



I have just trawled the Acle registers and the only Drake is John George bap Jan 7th 1831.



The Norfolk registers are only browsable not searchable so its quite a long haul.



http://pilot.familysearch.org/record...;c=1416598;w=0

Hello



Birth place of Frederic and other children could be established via the RN record of postings of Spencer DRAKE



http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/d...doc_Id=7896992



Description Name Drake, Spencer

Rank: Lieutenant



Date 27 May 1818

Catalogue reference ADM 196/4

Dept Records of the Admiralty, Naval Forces, Royal Marines, Coastguard, and related bodies

Series Admiralty: Officers' Service Records (Series III)

Piece Officers Time of Service

Image contains 1 document of many for this catalogue reference

Number of image files: 1

Image Reference Format and Version Part Number Size (KB) Number of Pages Price (£)

29 / 29 PDF 1.2 1 181 1 3.50

Total Price (£) 3.50



Have you checked births at sea or overseas births?



I note there is a Frederic H(unn) Drake b 1851 reg Norfolk, living with his grandfather, pres this is illeg son of Jane Drake who married Jacob HUNN 1852!



Otherwise cannot find anything for Frederic DRAKE



Elsabels

Elsabels

Hi Elsabels,



Chris is away this week but she asked me to let anyone that answered her post know that she would reply as soon as she comes back.

Hi Chris



Following on from other members’ posts – Just trying to establish a timeline of where Spencer was at any one time – I have him in the Norwich Poll book for 1818 living in St. Julian, Norwich – Drake, Spencer R.N.



Re: His naval career, Spencer was promoted to Lieutenant in 1828 – the year of Fredric’s birth and in newspapers of the time he is reported as being appointed in the September to HMS Revenge. Is it possible that Frederic was born overseas? I wonder. I’ve checked the marine births but nothing I’m afraid.



Spencer’s record as in Index to Extracts from Various Navy Lists 1844-1879



Executive Officers



Surname: Drake, First Names : Spencer

Birth Date : 28 Feb 1796



Date promoted :

Lieutenant: 05/06/1828



Rank & Seniority on Retired Lists as:

Commander: 01/07/1864



Is this another son?



Name: Robert Henry Drake

Gender: Male

Birth Date: abt 1823

Christening Date: 26 Nov 1823

Christening Place: Rye, Sussex, England

Father's Name: Spencer Drake

Mother's Name: Eliza

Thank you all for your help





Is this another son?



Name: Robert Henry Drake

Gender: Male

Birth Date: abt 1823

Christening Date: 26 Nov 1823

Christening Place: Rye, Sussex, England

Father's Name: Spencer Drake

Mother's Name: Eliza





Thank you Geniegenie yes this their son one i wasnt aware off im realy grateful , their first son was Spencer French Drake b. 1820 bp Eastbourne then Robert ? also a eliza Charlotte birth unknown as is Frederic .

Hello Chris



PIPE DREAM.....Francis DRAKE



I've been on my fav site again books google



British settlers in Natal, 1824-1857: a biographical register‎ - Page 325Shelagh O'Byrne Spencer - History - 2001 - 424 pages... Spencer French According to his father's gravestone in Norfolk he was Commander Spencer Drake, RN. Drake's mother was Eliza Mary French. ...Snippet view - About this book - More editions

Spencer French According to his father's gravestone in Norfolk he was

Commander Spencer Drake, RN. Drake's mother was Eliza Mary French.



http://www.shelaghsp...ot-to-dykes.php







An almanack for the year of our Lord ..., Volume 49‎ - Page 459Joseph Whitaker - Business & Economics - 1917RN Res. (illness contracted while commanding a patrol boat in Mediterranean), aged 46. ... 2nd and last Baronet, a descendant of Sir Francis Drake, aged 78. ...Snippet view - About this book - More editions





Mafeking: a Victorian legend‎ - Page 105

Brian Gardner - History - 1966 - 246 pages

His name was Spencer Drake — descended from the family of Sir Francis Drake; he

had lived for many years in the Transvaal and was now fighting on its behalf ...

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A naval biographical dictionary: comprising the life and services ..., Volume 1‎ - Page 304

William R. O'Byrne - History - 1849 - 1400 pages

Spencer Drake was born, 28 Feb. 1796, at Norwich, co. Norfolk. He had an only

brother in the service, who was lost while in charge of a prize belonging to ...

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An illustrated social history of South Africa‎ - Page 189

Alan Frederick Hattersley - History - 1969 - 261 pages

There were men from the West of England, like Spencer Drake, descendant of the

great Sir Francis. Among those who acquired colonial land were Sidney Peel, ...



I also found a ref to the book already mentioned previously



www.wellbank.net Parish of Heigham?

The only brother?

I found a ref to a Robert Spencer DRAKE RN died aged 19, who was lost of the coast of Scotland





Then there is a researcher listing Drake/Shingle: Drake Eliza:

Hunn/Barber/Drake/Jermy



link

removed



you may have to type this into the site



I did manage to find some info that I started off looking ofr on these 2 sites for myself!



Elsabels

Thank -you Elsebels the book you mentioned i purchased some time back , the information they gave on Spencer Jr. past isnt quite correct . as yet no proof at all that he was related to Sir Francis Drake as yes his father was a naval man but not his grandparents ect.





My problem with tree on drakes is this were was brother Frederick 1828 and sister Eliza Charlotte 1826. born.





Also his grandfather Robert Drake who wed Charlotte Spencer Norwich , he was a miller died while Charlotte was pregnant with Spencer . I know Robert had a sister Phillis who wed a chap Shingles ,she died 1836 at Acle Norfolk .



These are what ive been trying to find out to take tree further back.



I had added to curious fox a few years back for help sadly nothing , I found Spencers only brothers death ect. Robert Spencer Drake .





www.wellbank.net Parish of Heigham? havnt seen this though will have to google books . Thank -you for thinking of my tree

Hello Chris



Must have had a blond / senior moment.



HISTORY OF THE PARISH OF HEIGHAM

Robert Drake, died October 15th, 1795, aged 26 years; also of Robert Spencer Drake, of the Royal Navy, aged 19 years, who was lost off the coast of Scotland ...

www.welbank.net/norwich/hist.html -



Elsabels

Thats brilliant Elsabel have bookmarked to read everything thank -you