Thread: stuck trying to find alice's husband.

I am looking for the husband of Alice Mary Southcott born 1870, she is the daughter of Daniel southcott & Charlotte.



I have daniel & charlottes family but I cant find Alice and her husband after marriage or any trace of him at all.



I have the marriage certificate:

May 14th 1894 St Lukes church, Hackney- John robert Haldron, age 24, Bachelor, labourer, & Alice Mary Southcott, age 24, spinster. address at marriage: 7 Holmanwork street?. father - JOHN DIPE? Labourer & Daniel Southcott Clerk.

witnesses: Alfred Murphy & Esther Thompson.

John signs it: JOHN ROBERT WALDERN & alice 'X' her mark.



at ancestry the marriage is listed as John halden, FATHER john dix.



The marriage is listed at FReebmd as John Robert Waldern & Alice Mary Soutchott.

I can not find any birth of John WALDERN or John DIPE, or him and alice on 1901 or 1911 census.



Alice was born Islington 1870.

In 1871 she was with parents Daniel Southcott (b1834) & Charlotte nee PENNEY (born 1838) & siblings @ Prospect Row, Islington.

In 1881 she was at aunts house Sarah Baker nee southcott @21 brooksbys walk, hackney.

In 1891 alice is single, charwoman age 22. with mother Charlotte, widow @ 1 Pratts Row, Hackney.



any help greatly appreciated.

lisa xx

Just a thought, could it mean deceased ?

On image 19 there is a John Dix written very much the same. I think it was image 15 that there was a deceased one but this was written in the "Rank or profession of father". I think we are still in the dark here.

thanks for looking. I am very confused with this one.



I have searched 1901 & 1911 for alice c1870 born islington with a john or a southcott and found nothing. I have also searched Haldron, waldern, waldron or similar.

I have looked for children born hackney after the marriage and can see nothing that fits with family names.

I have searched for births in london of John Roberts 1870 ish and again drawn a blank.

I cant find alice's mothers death (Charlotte) or the mother in 1901 or 1911 - i wonder if she stayed with daughter and theres some transcription error somewhere.



thanks for taking the trouble to look for me.

Lisa

xx

Hello Lisa



St Lukes Church Hackney

Marriage 20/05/1896



PHILPOT John w'r 58 cooper s/o PHILPOT Stephen cooper

SOUTHCOTT Charlotte 56 widow d/o PENNEY Benjamin tailor

both of 1 Church St Homerton

JP signs CP marks X w Henry PHILPOT Srah Louise PHILPOT



PHILPOT Charlotte death q1 1903 1b 304 Hackney aged 62



Is this the person you are looking for?



DEATH

John Robert Waldron abt 1867 Mar 1910 - St Olave Bermondsey (1902-1913), London





Elsabels

Hi Lisa,



1901 Census for Alice’s mother



Name: Charlotte Philpot Age: 61 Estimated birth year: abt 1840 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: John Gender: Female Where born: Holborn, London, England Civil parish: Hackney Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabas Homerton County/Island: London Country: England

Street Address: 1 Church Terrace, Homerton, Hackney

Registration district: Hackney Sub-registration district: Central Hackney

Household Members:



Name, Age, Relation to Head

John Philpot, 63 B: 1838 Canterbury, Kent – Brewer’s cooper

Charlotte Philpot, 61 B; Holborn, London

Ernest Philpot, 20 B: 1881, Homerton, London

Daisy Philpot, 16 B: 1885, Homerton, London

Emma Penny, 60 – B: 1841, Holborn, London – Sister-in-law

thank you, thank you, thank you.

lisa

xx

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Is this the person you are looking for?



DEATH

John Robert Waldron abt 1867 Mar 1910 - St Olave Bermondsey (1902-1913), London





Elsabels

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I looked at this one in 1901 living bermondsey, but he is with a wife elizabeth (b1866 bermondsey)and a son aged 13. still not sure.

Thanks elsabels for all your help



lisa xx

i have also checked the address '7 holmbrook street, hackney' from 1894 in 1891 & 1901 census and thats a dead end too...



found this... but then trace goes dead !



John Robert Walden

Born 12/02/1895

Bapt 03/03/1895

St Barnabus Homerton

of John Robert and Alice WALDEN, occ carman

7 Holmbrook St



BUT on 1901 there are 2 young lads in a school in Sunbury Berks



James Walden aged 4

John Walden aged 7

place of birth shows N, poss not known



Can't find a death of Alice that fits