Thread: trying to find this couple

I am trying to find William Vokes and his wife Sarah Jane [nee Prince] Sarah was born in London 1852 but brought up in Sunderland. She married William Vokes at Sunderland 1875. I cannot find them on 1881 census. I searched free BDM and cant find a death or remarriage.

Is anyone able to track them down?

I dont know where or when William was born.

Many thanks

Hello



I have searched freebmd and come up with



BIRTHS

All Sunderland in the timeframe circa marriage 1875



VOKES Jonathon Wm b1875 d 1875

VOKES JAne b1878 d 1878

VOKES James Wm b q2 1880

?VOKES HArriett b 1890 d 1890 ?



There doesnot seem to be any VOKES in the Sunderland /Durham area.so I suspect William was born elsewhere.



Have you googled searched genesreunited for the name?



Do you have any other info on the 2 famillies.



Other wise it looks like buying the cert!



Elsabels

[quote name='seeker' date='11 February 2010 - 12:03 PM' timestamp='1265889790' post='213976']

I am trying to find William Vokes and his wife Sarah Jane [nee Prince] Sarah was born in London 1852 but brought up in Sunderland. She married William Vokes at Sunderland 1875. I cannot find them on 1881 census. I searched free BDM and cant find a death or remarriage.

Is anyone able to track them down?

I dont know where or when William was born.

Many thanks

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can i ask - where did you get the names? what info do you have on them already? do you have them in other census's or their children?

[quote name='lisabyrne' date='12 February 2010 - 07:23 PM' timestamp='1266002592' post='214097']

can i ask - where did you get the names? what info do you have on them already? do you have them in other census's or their children?

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i think this is sarah in 1871:



PRINCE, Sarah Jane 1855 16 F Sunderland Durham



but it looks like by 1901 she was calling herself jane and him James W ! - i think this could be them but cant get the full census entry (maybe someone else can look this up for you )



VOKES, James W 1852 49 M Sunderland Durham (born weston super mare, somerset - occ. Bill Poster)

VOKES, Jane 1855 46 F Sunderland Durham (born weston super mare, somerset)

VOKES, Elizabeth 1879 22 F Sunderland Durham (born durham)

VOKES, James W 1880 21 M Sunderland Durham (born Durham, occ. Bill Poster)

VOKES, Thomas 1889 12 M Sunderland Durham (born Ireland. occ jeuvenille)



this may explain why you cant find them in other census. - In 1889 In Ireland, maybe also there in 1891.

Hello



Working on the basis that the births in Sunderland in above mail, are connected to the couple you are looking for there is this

1901 census

RG13 / 4712 /163

Hedworth St Sunderland

James W Vokes 49 1852 Bill poster Weston Super Mare ( William VOKES?)

Jane Vokes 46 1855 Weston Super Mare ( Sarah Jane PRINCE?)

James W Vokes 21 b 1880 bill poster SUNDERLAND shown as married

Thomas Vokes 12 1889 Ireland

Robert Crosbie 38 Lodgers

John Mulherne 35 Lodgers

James Westgarth 20 Lodgers



1881 in Ireland????



1871 Census

RG10 / 4368 / 79

Huddersfield

William VOKES b 1850 W s on Mare Billposter

as a lodger in the h/hold of joseph Ibberson



1851 not sure

HO107 / 1635 / 594



Elsabels



lisa...great minds think alike......

[quote name='Elsabels' date='13 February 2010 - 06:42 AM' timestamp='1266007325' post='214105']

Hello



Working on the basis that the births in Sunderland in above mail, are connected to the couple you are looking for there is this

1901 census

RG13 / 4712 /163

Hedworth St Sunderland

James W Vokes 49 1852 Bill poster Weston Super Mare ( William VOKES?)

Jane Vokes 46 1855 Weston Super Mare ( Sarah Jane PRINCE?)

James W Vokes 21 b 1880 bill poster SUNDERLAND shown as married

Thomas Vokes 12 1889 Ireland

Robert Crosbie 38 Lodgers

John Mulherne 35 Lodgers

James Westgarth 20 Lodgers



1881 in Ireland????



1871 Census

RG10 / 4368 / 79

Huddersfield

William VOKES b 1850 W s on Mare Billposter

as a lodger in the h/hold of joseph Ibberson



1851 not sure

HO107 / 1635 / 594



Elsabels



lisa...great minds think alike......

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Hi. Thank you all for your help. Sorry for not getting back earlier [time difference]

Sarah Jane Vokes is Sarah Jane Prince. On 1861 census she is listed with her parents as James, which threw me for a while. Her birth certificate gives her as Sarah Jane.

I know nothing of William as it is the prince line i was following. I got her marriage from Free BDM, and crossed checked with the Sunderland records for BDM`s. Is does sound likely that they are the ones using different names. The childrens names are family names for the Prince side. Jonathan as Sarahs fathers name, Harriett james etc are all used over again. I have tried genes reunited but got nothing [using William as a christian name. Ill try with the other names.]

Many thanks for your help

Hello



I think the VOKES have a Irish connection, somewhere i recall seeing a Mrs VOKES b Ireland, that I vaguely thought of and dismissed



Try Sunderland trade directories...www.genuki.co.uk also google the name you may pick up VOKES name researchers



Elsabels

[quote name='Elsabels' date='13 February 2010 - 10:43 AM' timestamp='1266021808' post='214156']

Hello



I think the VOKES have a Irish connection, somewhere i recall seeing a Mrs VOKES b Ireland, that I vaguely thought of and dismissed



Try Sunderland trade directories...www.genuki.co.uk also google the name you may pick up VOKES name researchers



Elsabels

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Thank you

[quote name='seeker' date='13 February 2010 - 01:00 AM' timestamp='1266022839' post='214158']

Thank you

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found the son James William in 1911 irish census i think, married with children:



http://www.census.nationalarchives.i...Street/524632/



Residents of house number 52 in Main Street (Lisnaskea, Fermanagh)



Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses Years Married Children Born Children Living

Vokes James William 30 Male Head of Family R Catholic Durham Paper Hanger Read and write - Married - 11 4 3

Vokes Catherine 39 Female Wife R Catholic Fermanagh - Read and write - Married - 11 4 3

Vokes James William 8 Male Son R Catholic Lanarkshire Scholar Read and write - Single - - - -

Vokes Mary Jane 10 Female Daughter R Catholic Fermanagh Scholar Read and write - Single - - - -

Vokes Catherine 6 Female Daughter R Catholic Lanarkshire Scholar Read and write - Single -



also

possible his daughters birth:

Civil Birth Vokes Mary Jane 1901 Co. Fermanagh

http://ifhf.brsgenealogy.com/quis.ph...evStartQuery=0