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    I am trying to trace the family of James Wyatt, born approx 1835-1837 his parents were George and Elizabeth.

    James emigrated to New Zealand aboard the vessel Martaban in 1856. He departed from Gravesend and paid his own passage. He came on a scheme where if you paid your own passage you would be given a land grant after you arrived in New Zealand.In New Zealand in his short life he was described as a succesful businessman and pioneer. He died in 1866 leaving 2 children and his wife.

    I have searched for the ships log in Archives UK but they do not have them. There was a thought he may come from Hampshire, but this has not produced any results so far. Any help would be appreciated.

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    [quote name='philipw' date='08 February 2010 - 03:15 AM' timestamp='1265598959' post='213723']

    I am trying to trace the family of James Wyatt, born approx 1835-1837 his parents were George and Elizabeth.

    James emigrated to New Zealand aboard the vessel Martaban in 1856. He departed from Gravesend and paid his own passage. He came on a scheme where if you paid your own passage you would be given a land grant after you arrived in New Zealand.In New Zealand in his short life he was described as a succesful businessman and pioneer. He died in 1866 leaving 2 children and his wife.

    I have searched for the ships log in Archives UK but they do not have them. There was a thought he may come from Hampshire, but this has not produced any results so far. Any help would be appreciated.

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    Hi



    This could possibly be your man and his parents and grandparents



    JAMES WHYATT

    Event(s):

    Christening: 27 JAN 1839 Hambledon, Hampshire, England

    Parents:

    Father: GEORGE WHYATT

    Mother: ELIZABETH

    Source Information:

    Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

    C136612 1778 - 1876 1041206 Film 6900248 Film Sheet: 00



    GEORGE WYATT

    Event(s):

    Marriages:

    Spouse: ELIZABETH JEREM

    Marriage: 18 APR 1829 Hambledon, Hampshire, England

    Source Information:

    Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

    M136612 1798 - 1837 1041206 Film 6900249 Film Sheet: 00



    GEORGE WYATT

    Event(s):

    Christening: 14 DEC 1806 Hambledon, Hampshire, England

    Parents:

    Father: JOHN WYATT

    Mother: FRANCES

    Source Information:

    Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

    C136612 1778 - 1876 1041206 Film 6900248 Film Sheet: 00



    ELIZABETH JEROME

    Event(s):

    Christening: 18 NOV 1804 Hambledon, Hampshire, England

    Parents:

    Father: SAMUEL JEROME

    Mother: ANN

    Source Information:

    Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

    C136612 1778 - 1876 1041206 Film 6900248 Film Sheet: 00



    JOHN WYATT

    Event(s):

    Marriages:

    Spouse: FRANCES PEARCE

    Marriage: 06 OCT 1798 East Meon, Hampshire, England

    Source Information:

    Batch Number: 8630133 Sheet: 49 Source Call No.: 1396269 Type: Film



    SAMUEL JEREM

    Event(s):

    Marriages:

    Spouse: ANN PERKINS

    Marriage: 22 MAR 1798 Hambledon, Hampshire, England

    Source Information:

    Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

    M136612 1798 - 1837 1041206 Film 6900249 Film Sheet: 00



    There is no sign of James in the 1841 census and at no time does he appear with his parents.



    1841 England Census for Rushmoor, Hambledon, Hampshire

    Name: John Wyatt

    Name Age

    John Wyatt 60 Ag Lab

    Francis Wyatt 50

    Maria Wyatt 20

    ALL BORN IN COUNTY

    HO107/ 387/15/24



    1851 England Census for Speltham Hill, Hambledon, Hampshire

    Name: John Wyatt

    Name Age

    John Wyatt 73 Head Farmer of 4 acres b Exton, Hampshire

    Frances Wyatt 48 Wife b East Meon, Hampshire

    HO107/1676/ 343/ 53



    1841 England Census for Rushmoor, Hambledon, Hampshire

    Name: George Wyatt

    Name Age

    George Wyatt 33 Ag Lab

    Elizabeth Wyatt 36

    Elizabeth Wyatt 11

    Eliza Wyatt 9

    Henry Wyatt 4 Mo

    ALL BORN IN COUNTY

    HO107/387/15/24



    1851 England Census for Rushmoor, Hambledon, Hampshire

    Name: George Wyatt

    Name Age

    George Wyatt 44 Head Ag Lab b Hambledon, Hampshire

    Elizabeth Wyatt 46 Wife b Hambledon, Hampshire

    Henry Wyatt 10 Son Scholar b Hambledon, Hampshire

    Lucy Wyatt 7 Dau Scholar b Hambledon, Hampshire

    HO107/1676/345/ 57



    1861 England Census for Rushmoor, Hambledon, Hampshire

    Name: George Wyatt

    Name Age

    George Wyatt 54 Head Ag Lab b Hambledon, Hampshire

    Elizabeth Wyatt 56 Wife b Hambledon, Hampshire

    RG9/698/15/23



    1871 England Census for Rushmere, Hambledon, Hampshire

    Name: George Wyatt

    Name Age

    George Wyatt 64 Head Ag Lab b Hambledon, Hampshire

    Elizabeth Wyatt 66 Wife b Hambledon, Hampshire

    RG10/1217/ 12/16



    It's 1am.. I'm going to bed. Will continue in the morning



    Mark

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    Hi



    George Wyatt had a brother James



    JAMES WYATT

    Event(s):

    Birth: 08 DEC 1804

    Christening: 03 MAR 1805 Saint Marys, Portsea, Hampshire, England

    Parents:

    Father: JOHN WYATT

    Mother: FRANCES

    Source Information:

    Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

    C062613 1805 - 1812 0919738 Film 883908 Film

    C062613 1813 - 1822 0919739 Film NONE Sheet: 00



    GEORGE WYATT

    Event(s):

    Christening: 14 DEC 1806 Hambledon, Hampshire, England

    Parents:

    Father: JOHN WYATT

    Mother: FRANCES

    Source Information:

    Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

    C136612 1778 - 1876 1041206 Film 6900248 Film Sheet: 00





    Does this birth relate to James below??



    JAMES WHYATT

    Event(s):

    Christening: 27 JAN 1839 Hambledon, Hampshire, England

    Parents:

    Father: GEORGE WHYATT

    Mother: ELIZABETH

    Source Information:

    Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

    C136612 1778 - 1876 1041206 Film 6900248 Film Sheet: 00



    Birth

    Name: James Wyatt

    Year of Registration: 1839

    Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar

    District: Droxford

    County: Hampshire

    Volume: 7

    Page: 55



    Does this death relate to James b 1804 or James b 1839??

    Only the purchase of the Death Certificate or a view of the Parish Records will give that information.

    Of course, if it is James junior, then George and Elizabeth are not his parents.




    Deaths Mar Qtr 1840 WYATT James Droxford Registration District 7 32 [52]



    Where would James find the money for his passage?? Ag Labs don’t earn that kind of loot.

    At best he’d be 21 and more likely just 17.



    Checked 1841 Census for all districts [1-4] on Ancestry for Hambledon and no James Wyatt



    1841 England Census for Green Lane, Hambledon, Hampshire

    Name: Samuel Jerrem

    Name Age

    Samuel Jerrem 70 Ag Lab

    Ann Jerrem 65

    Richard Jerrem 22

    ALL BORN IN COUNTY

    HO107/ Piece 387/ 4/ 3





    1851 England Census for Green Lane, Hambledon, Hampshire

    Samuel Jerram

    Name Age

    Samuel Jerram 80 Head Ag Lab Receiving Parish Relief b Clanfield, Hampshire,

    Ann Jerram 74 Wife b Greenford Middlesex

    HO107/ 1676/ 347/ 60



    Deaths Dec Qtr 1854 Ann Jerem Droxford Registration District 2c 81



    Deaths Dec Qtr 1857 Samuel Jerram Droxford Registration District 2c 75



    Deaths Dec Qtr 1876 George Wyatt aged 70 Droxford Registration District 2c 83



    Deaths Mar Qtr 1880 Elizabeth Wyatt aged 75 Droxford Registration District 2c 94



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    Hi Mark,

    I have this line but as we can both see it appears to go nowhere. It is possible that this is the right family and would certainly bear more research when I am next in Britain.

    Regards

    Philip

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    [quote name='The Lady Marion' date='10 February 2010 - 02:07 PM' timestamp='1265767623' post='213887']

    Maybe these NZ links might help?



    Good Luck..









    www.archway.archives.govt.nz





    http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast

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    Hi, Thank you for this. yes I do use archives New Zealand as well as Papers Past and have been able to pick up quite a bit of thee history of James in New Zealand. I have been trying to find some information about James family back in the UK. I can already trace the other 3 families that make up my heritage who came from the UK but the links for james do not appear to add up.

    Regards

    Philip

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    Hi Mark,

    The james Wyatt refered to as being born in 1839 died in 1840 aged 14 months, so this track sadly is the wrong one. I am beginning to think that James mother or father died shortly after his birth perhaps.

    Philip

 

 

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