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    I would like to find the birth and family of Walter Newman.Walter married Beatrice E Bayliss 06 Jan 1917 Hampstead London.Age was 44 so born abt 1873 and father was Edwin Joseph Newman a builder who was deceased.Walter's occupation was waiter.



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    Who were the witnesses? They might be relatives which might help find him.



    1881 RG11; Piece: 351; Folio: 32; Page: 12

    there's a Walter D. Newman aged 6 with family living in Bloomsbury, London. Father is Edwin, a painter. It's possible Edwin changed professions, or that Walter bigged him up on his marriage cert. But can't be at all sure this is him and can't find a likely Walter at all in 1901.



    1881

    6 Guildford Street East, London

    Edwin NEWMAN Head 50 London Bloomsbury, London, Middlesex Painter

    Ann NEWMAN Wife 45 Little Hadham, Hertford

    Edwin J. NEWMAN Son 19 Bloomsbury

    Annie B. NEWMAN Daur 13 Clerkenwell

    Blanch C. NEWMAN Daur 9 Clerkenwell Scholar

    Walter D. NEWMAN Son 6 Clerkenwell Scholar

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    Found a baptism for the above Walter at St Philips Clerkenwell



    He was baptised Walter Daniel Newman 4 July 1880 together with his sister Annie Beatrice. Walter's birthdate 1st June 1874 and Annie's 12 Apr 1862. Parents Edwin Newman, a painter, & Anne. Address: 6 Guildford Street East, which is where they are in 1881.



    And this is the birth reg ref for this Walter - though no proof its YOUR Walter of course.





    Name: Walter Daniel Newman

    Year of Registration: 1874

    Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep

    District: Holborn

    County: London, Middlesex

    Volume: 1b

    Page: 671

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    Thanks Helen.That looks like him but I will do some research to prove it. One witness(male) is a nephew of the bride and the other(female) I assume is a friend of the bride.So no help there.



    Ed

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    I wonder if this could be the same Walter Daniel Newman who had previously married Jane King



    Name: Walter Daniel Newman

    Age: 26

    Estimated birth year: abt 1871

    Spouse Name: Jane King

    Spouse Age: 27

    Record Type: Marriage

    Event Date: 23 Feb 1897

    Parish: St John, Walham Green

    County: Middlesex

    Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham

    Father Name: Edwin Joseph Newman

    Spouse Father Name: Arthur King

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    [quote name='Geniegenie' date='03 February 2010 - 12:03 AM' timestamp='1265155416' post='213316']

    I wonder if this could be the same Walter Daniel Newman who had previously married Jane King



    Name: Walter Daniel Newman

    Age: 26

    Estimated birth year: abt 1871

    Spouse Name: Jane King

    Spouse Age: 27

    Record Type: Marriage

    Event Date: 23 Feb 1897

    Parish: St John, Walham Green

    County: Middlesex

    Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham

    Father Name: Edwin Joseph Newman

    Spouse Father Name: Arthur King

    [/quote]



    There was a Jane Newman who died in 1904



    England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915

    Name: Jane Newman

    Estimated birth year: abt 1872

    Year of Registration: 1904

    Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec

    Age at Death: 32

    District: Fulham

    County: Greater London, London, Middlesex

    Volume: 1a

    Page: 193
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    [quote name='noggin28' date='03 February 2010 - 05:24 AM' timestamp='1265196275' post='213326']

    There was a Jane Newman who died in 1904



    England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915

    Name: Jane Newman

    Estimated birth year: abt 1872

    Year of Registration: 1904

    Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec

    Age at Death: 32

    District: Fulham

    County: Greater London, London, Middlesex

    Volume: 1a

    Page: 193

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    Thanks Geniegenie and Noggin.



    Some more research.The father of the groom in the 1897 marriage is the same as my Walter Daniel Newman.



    Ed

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    The 1897 marriage to Jane King has Walter's occupation as butler (Jane is a domestic servant) and his father Edwin Joseph is deceased, his occupation plumber.

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    Hello



    27/07/1859 St George Bloomsbury



    Marriage by Banns both of full age NEWMAN Edwin Plumber 10 Southampton Mews s/o Joseph NEWMAN Plumber



    to GILLETT Ann 26 King Street Daniel GILLETT Carpenter



    Both sign name witnesses ???? ? Gillett



    The birth of Walter Daniel NEWMAN is q3 1874 Holborn London 1b 671



    Baptism appears to be: St Philip Clerkenwell



    04/07/1880 ( b 01/06/1874 ) Walter Daniel s/o Edwin & Ann NEWMAN 6 Guildford Street East farther occup Painter



    04/07/1880 ( b 12/04/1868) Annie Beatrice d/o Edwin & Ann NEWMAN 6 Guildford Street East farther occup Painter

    over the page

    04/07/1880 ( b 20/03/1872) Blanche Caroline d/o Edwin & Ann NEWMAN 6 Guildford Street East farther occup Painter



    1871 census RG10 386 shows Edwin as Plumber & Painter



    1891 RG12 225 Ann shown as a widow



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