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    hi ,

    can any one help me find any information on my 1xgreatgrandma, i have her as born 11/09/1853 holy trinity,kingston-upon-hull.east yorkshire. i am looking for her on the 1871 census aged 17 on a ship. idont know if this is correct and would like some one if possible to look it up for me. the ship i have is H.M.S INVINTAGE. or H.M.S INVINSABLE. i would like to know what she was on the ship. any help is appreciated. thank you for reading my message. my kindest regards.

    ......jean....

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    [quote name='jeanbarker52' date='18 January 2010 - 10:44 PM' timestamp='1263854650' post='212343']

    hi ,

    can any one help me find any information on my 1xgreatgrandma, i have her as born 11/09/1853 holy trinity,kingston-upon-hull.east yorkshire. i am looking for her on the 1871 census aged 17 on a ship. idont know if this is correct and would like some one if possible to look it up for me. the ship i have is H.M.S INVINTAGE. or H.M.S INVINSABLE. i would like to know what she was on the ship. any help is appreciated. thank you for reading my message. my kindest regards.

    ......jean....

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    Hi



    what was the Ladies name please -the ship was quite like ly to have been HMS INVINCIBLE - if this is reading correctly



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    Hello



    This this your ancestor 1871 census



    RG10 4791

    Name: Emma Stringer

    Age: 17

    Estimated birth year: abt 1854

    Relation: Niece Gender: Female

    Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England

    Civil parish: Holy Trinity

    Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity

    Town: Kingston Upon Hull

    County/Island: Yorkshire

    Country: England

    Registration district: Hull

    Sub-registration district: Myton

    ED, institution, or vessel: 26

    Household schedule number: 131

    Household Members: Name Age

    John Stringer 48

    Caraline Stringer 49

    Emma Stringer 17

    Samuel Tounsend 27

    Elizabeth Tounsend 26



    Entry reads under Rank Profession Occupation 'HMS Invinsible'



    HMS Invincible (1869) was an armoured "broadside battleship" built in 1869. She was renamed Erebus in 1904 and Fisgard II in 1906, before foundering in a storm in 1914.

    This link will give you an insight to the history and 'trips' of the ship

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Invincible_(1869)



    On Rootsweb there is the following...so presumably 'home on leave'

    HMS Invincible (3rd class armour plated ship) Hull roads.



    Archives are likely to be at the Natioanl Maritine Museum

    www.nmm.ac.uk


    also

    www.Nationalarchives.gov.uk



    There is loadsa info on google.co.uk...HM INVINCIBLE 1871



    Good hunting



    Elsabels

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    hi

    Hope this helpful - took a gamble on the name and came up with 2 that showed up from Hull - however if its another name let me know and I will search for them instead.

    1871

    Saers Judith 28 Head Wife Of Quarter Master H M S Invincible Portsmouth, Hampshire 13 Charter House Lane, Sculcoates

    1871

    Barnfather John 24 Head Coal Dealer Hull, Yorkshire 46 Dock Street, Sculcoates

    Barnfather Tarnar 25 Wife Coal Dealers Wife Hull, Yorkshire 46 Dock Street, Sculcoates

    Herbert Elizabeth 30 Wife Sailors Wife Gorlston, Norfolk 46 Dock Street, Sculcoates

    Herbert John W 3 Son - Hull, Yorkshire 46 Dock Street, Sculcoates

    Luccock Sarah 21 Visitor Domestic Servant Scarbro, Yorkshire 46 Dock Street, Sculcoates

    Diamond William 25 Visitor Rms Invincible Wellington, Somerset 46 Dock Street, Sculcoates

    Allen Frederick 21 Visitor Seaman Birmingham, Warwickshire 46 Dock Street, Sculcoates



    HMS Invincible". (Piece No: RG10/5783 En. Dist: Folio: 162 Page: 4 ... Woolwich, Kent. Alexander G. 13 October 2005. Page 1 of 35. [1871] ...



    British ironclad HMS INVINCIBLE, built 1869 by Messrs. Robert Napier and Son in Glasgow. ... Ironclad ram HMS HOTSPUR, launched 1871. Engraving L871a068 ...





    Barrow has a long history of naval shipbuilding with Vickers having developed a reputation for naval shipbuilding.



    The Iron Shipbuilding Company was founded in 1871 by James Ramsden, General Manager of the Furness Railway Company who became first mayor of the new town of Barrow.



    The name of the yard was changed to the Barrow Ship Building Company (BSBC) when it was discovered that there was already another company building iron ships further down the coast at Birkenhead. At the end of the 19th century the company was bought by Vickers.



    Again taken from the 1871 census locations as of midnight on April 2nd 1871.





    The seventh “INVINCIBLE” was a twin-screw 14-gun broadside ironclad, launched at Glasgow in 1869. She was of 6010 tons, 4830 horse-power, and 14 knots speed. Her length, beam, and draught were 280ft., 54ft., and 23ft. In 1873 the “Invincible,” commanded by Captain John Clark Soady, was one of a small squadron under Vice-Admiral Sir Hastings Yelverton, which proceeded to the Spanish coast and established a blockade of the Spanish Mediterranean littoral. She assisted in the operations against the Spanish Intransigentes and prevented the insurgent ships from bombarding various coastal towns. In 1879 the “Invincible,” commanded by Captain Lindesay Brine, was one of a squadron of seven ships which occupied the island of Cyprus under Vice-Admiral Lord John Hay with his flag in “Minotaur.” In 1882 the “Invincible,” took part in the Egyptian War. In July 1882 the “Invincible,” commanded by Captain Robert More Molyneux, lay at Alexandria in a fleet of 14 ships commanded by Admiral Sir Beauchamp Seymour with his flag in “Alexandra.” The Egyptians having failed to surrender their forts, the Admiral transferred his flag to the lighter draught ship “Invincible,” and on July 11th at 7a.m. the “Alexandra” fired the first shot in bombardment of Alexandria. The “Invincible,” with two other ships, was stationed inside the harbour, and she fought at anchor with a spring on her cable. All ships were cleared for action, topgallant masts being struck and bowsprits rigged in. By 7.10 a.m. all ships were engaged, and all the forts that could bring their guns to bear replied with vigour. By 5 p.m. all guns ashore had been silenced and the fleet ceased bombarding at 5:30 p.m. The “Invincible” had several dents on her armour, and was penetrated more than once outside it. The British casualties were 5 killed and 28 wounded , to which the “Invincible” contributed 6 wounded, including Midshipman Walter Lumsden. The Egyptian loss has never been properly ascertained, but it is believed to have been about 150 killed and 400 wounded , out of the 200 men engaged in working the forts. On July 13th the “Invincible,” and other ships steamed into the harbour, and landed men who occupied and policed the town, Paymaster Stanton of this ship becoming the Head of the Commissariat. On August 5th the “Invincible” contributed to a Naval Brigade which left Alexandria in the armoured train which was commanded by Captain John Fisher, of the “Inflexible.” Commander Reginald F.H. Henderson, of the “Invincible,” accompanied the brigade. The marines were detrained about 800 yards from Mehallet Junction, and assisted by a 40-pounder Armstrong gun, quickly dislodged the enemy. During the evening the brigade was exposed to a galling fire, but the marines behaved with great gallantry, and bore the brunt of the attack. The casualties in this affair were 1 marine killed and 12 wounded, and 1 seaman killed and 4 wounded. The Naval Brigade were then recalled to their ships. In 1885 the “Invincible” contributed to a Naval Brigade which operated on the Nile, under Captain Lord Charles Beresford. It took part in the battles of Abu Klea, Metemmeh, and Wad-Habeshi, and the relief of Sir Charles Wilson. Captain Robert More Molyneux was rewarded with the C.B. for his services. In 1904 this ship’s name was changed to “Erebus.” At a later date her name was changed again to “Fisgard,” and she was merged into the establishment for the training of boy artificers in Portsmouth harbour. On September 16th, 1914, this ship foundered off Portland in a heavy gale. She was being towed at the time, and 21 men were drowned out of the 64 on board.



    A large image size 10" x 7" approx, is available. Reproduced from the original negative / photo under license from MPL, the copyright holder. A signed numbered certificate is supplied. Price £25. Order photograph here Order Code XMP57



    29TH MAY 1869 BOMBARDED ALEXANDRIA. RENAMED EREBUS IN 1904, THEN FISGARD II IN 1906. SANK WHILE ON TOW OFF PORTLAND ON 17TH SEPTEMBER 1914.





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    [quote name='banditfivealive' date='19 January 2010 - 01:22 PM' timestamp='1263907369' post='212370']

    Hi



    what was the Ladies name please -the ship was quite like ly to have been HMS INVINCIBLE - if this is reading correctly



    kind reagards

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    hi bandit.

    thanks for reply the ladies name was emma stringer and i was very interested in what you set i would like to know what she was doing on the ship as first i heard of this. looking forward to your reply.

    kindest regards...........jean..........

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    [quote name='Elsabels' date='19 January 2010 - 01:34 PM' timestamp='1263908063' post='212374']

    Hello



    This this your ancestor 1871 census



    RG10 4791

    Name: Emma Stringer

    Age: 17

    Estimated birth year: abt 1854

    Relation: Niece Gender: Female

    Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England

    Civil parish: Holy Trinity

    Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity

    Town: Kingston Upon Hull

    County/Island: Yorkshire

    Country: England

    Registration district: Hull

    Sub-registration district: Myton

    ED, institution, or vessel: 26

    Household schedule number: 131

    Household Members: Name Age

    John Stringer 48

    Caraline Stringer 49

    Emma Stringer 17

    Samuel Tounsend 27

    Elizabeth Tounsend 26



    Entry reads under Rank Profession Occupation 'HMS Invinsible'



    HMS Invincible (1869) was an armoured "broadside battleship" built in 1869. She was renamed Erebus in 1904 and Fisgard II in 1906, before foundering in a storm in 1914.

    This link will give you an insight to the history and 'trips' of the ship

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Invincible_(1869)



    On Rootsweb there is the following...so presumably 'home on leave'

    HMS Invincible (3rd class armour plated ship) Hull roads.



    Archives are likely to be at the Natioanl Maritine Museum

    www.nmm.ac.uk


    also

    www.Nationalarchives.gov.uk



    There is loadsa info on google.co.uk...HM INVINCIBLE 1871



    Good hunting



    Elsabels

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    hi elsabels,

    thank you for the reply this is my great grandmother. will look at the sites you mentioned, as like to know what work she did on this ship,it is very interesting as never knew any of this, i wonder what else i will find about my ancestors.i greatly appreciate your help.

    kindest regards.........jean........

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    HI Emma



    I wiII try to unrave this mystery for you



    Elizabeth Stringer age 26 was with Samuel Townsend 27 in 1871 by the Iooks of things -maybe on Ieave the ship was new.

    Emma Stringer was 17 and was the niece



    I have acess to to the 1871 crew Iist for HMS INVINCIBIE - THERE WERE 337 crew aIItogether



    Samuel Townsend Age : 27 ... Born in : 1844 ..Rank: Bombardier .... Vessel: Invincible ... Birth county : Devon ... Birth parish: Exeter ... Area: Royal Navy At Sea And In Ports Abroad



    1871 yorkshire - HUII



    Stringer John 48 Head Cloth Dealer Hull, Yorkshire 90 English Street, Hull RG10/4791/F?

    Stringer Caroline 49 Wife Cloth Dealer's Wife Leeds, Yorkshire 90 English Street, Hull RG10/4791/F?

    Stringer Emma 17 Niece Hull, Yorkshire 90 English Street, Hull RG10/4791/F?



    [[size="7"]b]Townsend Samuel 27 Lodger Corporal R M Artilery Exeter, Devon 90 English Street, Hull RG10/4791/F? [/b]

    Townsend Elizabeth 26 Wife - Chitterne, Wiltshire 90 English Street, Hull



    Emma shares the same name as John - it shouid be daughter! Maybe Eiizabeth was a Stringer before



    1861 census



    Stringer John 39 Head Beer House Keeper Hull, Yorkshire Beerhouse, Kingston Upon Hull, Yorkshire Er

    Stringer Caroline 40 Wife Beer House Keeper's Wife Hull, Yorkshire Beerhouse, Kingston Upon Hull, Yorkshire Er

    Stringer ?? 74 Sister Domestic Servant Hull, Yorkshire Beerhouse, Kingston Upon Hull, Yorkshire Er

    Stringer Emma 8 Niece Scholar Hull, Yorkshire Beerhouse, Kingston Upon Hull, Yorkshire Er



    I did have a Iook at the originaI but the Iady of 74 was unreadabIe



    1851 census for Yorkshire



    Stringer John 29 Head Mariner Hull, Yorkshire 6 Temple's Court, Kingston Upon Hull, Yorkshire Er

    Stringer Caroline 28 Wife - Leeds, Yorkshire 6 Temple's Court, Kingston Upon Hull, Yorkshire Er

    so here is john as a mariner too - if I get chance I wiII HAVE A IOOK AT THE TOwnsend Iine if you Iike



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