Thread: Mungall : James William

Hello everyone

I am looking for a James William Mungall born 1876 reg dist.Sheffield

Marries Flora Challis 1904 Grimsby.

2 children William 1904,Doris 1907.

On the 1911 The wife and 2children are in Grimsby but he is not on the census.

Flora has two more children 1912 and 1915, despite carrying his surname I am pretty sure they are not his.

Ive looked on free BMD but cannot a death for James William Mungall , using the vast collective knowledge of the forum does anybody have any ideas?



tia Farlington

Does Flora say she is head of the household, does she describe herself as wife?

I can't see a likely death either. Perhaps he was a fisherman and drowned at sea? Often the body was washed up weeks or months later and quite unrecognisable.

Hello



Have you got his occupattion from his marriage or the children's birth cert?



Elsabels

Thanks for ideas and advice. His wife married into my family many years later, it was only when someone asked what happened to him did I start looking. I didnt want to go down the shelling out line if there was a resource that I had missed on the net like a list of lost seamen from Grimsby, i seem to have spent a fortune on the 1911 already and was resisting, but it looks like thats the next stop, or as he is not directly in the family just let that one go.



Farlington

Hello



As this is not a direct member of your family, I would consider putting it on the back burner and as more records are digitised check for him!



ONLY marriage I can find is MUNGALL Henry to BUTTER Ada MArgaret q3 1875 East Retford ( Notts)



I have searched various sites and all i can come up with is

1881 Census

RG11 4737 Brackenholme HOWDEN Yorks

MUNGALL Henry H 1853 farmer 56 acres Scotland

Ada M w 1853 Clifton cumland Yorks

James Wm 1872 Sheffield

Violet A 1877 Sheffield b cert Violet Annie q3 1877 Sheffield

Henry 1879 Brackenholme Yorks b cert q1 1879 Howden



Also MUNGALL Arthur b1880 Howden ( not on census)



By 1891 Ada was a widow, poss living with family in Horton BRADFORD

RG12 3642

Name: Ada Mungall

[Ada Kirby]

Age: 38

Estimated birth year: abt 1853

Relation: Daughter

Mother's Name: Jane

Gender: Female

Where born: Hemingbrough York, Yorkshire, England



Civil parish: Horton

Ecclesiastical parish: St Johns

County/Island: Yorkshire

Country: England



Street Address:



Occupation:



Condition as to marriage:



Education:



Employment status: View image



Registration district: Bradford

Sub-registration district: Horton

ED, institution, or vessel: 42

Neighbors: View others on page

Household Members: Name Age

Jane Kirby 65

William Butler 36

Ada Mungall 38

Henry Mungall 12

Arthur Mungall 9

Charles Woolverton 57

Amelia Woolverton 41





1901

RG13 4164

Name: Ada M Mungall

Age: 49

Estimated birth year: abt 1852

Relation: Head

Gender: Female

Where born: Hemingbrough, Yorkshire, England



Civil parish: Bradford

Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew

County/Island: Yorkshire

Country: England



Street Address:



Occupation:



Condition as to marriage:



Education:



Employment status: View image



Registration district: Bradford

Sub-registration district: Horton

ED, institution, or vessel: 4

Neighbors: View others on page

Household schedule number: 185

Household Members: Name Age

Ada M Mungall 49

Harry Mungall 22

Arthur B Mungall 19

William Butler 47





No sign of the elusive James



Elsabels

Elsabels





Thats the family, thanks for the info. My guessing is that he was at sea in both 1901 and 1911 (if still alive)

Its also my thinking to put him on the back burner. This generation of the family has taken more time than the rest of the 230 years ive done on this branch so far.



Farlington