Thread: charles mansell, born homerton/ hackney c1876

i am trying to confirm who the parents are of Charles Mansell - born homerton/ hackney east london c1876.



I have my family in 1891 with GRANDSON CHARLES MANSELL, age 15, occupation Van Boy carm...

but i now have doubts and wonder who his parents were.



in the same household is my ggg grandfather, ggg grandmother, gggrandparents and ggrandfather and his brother.



Theodore Mansell, head age 76

Jemima mansell, wife, age 68

Harry mansell , son , 33

emily mansell (daughter in law) 37

ambrose mansell, grandson, 4

william mansell, grandson, 1

Charles mansell, grandson, age 15 - born homerton





nathan william (k/a/ william)born 1889 is my gr grandfather.



harry had a brother Charles who died in 1895, his wife had died in 1890 and they left 2 daughters and a son. i wonder if this is the son.



the same family in 1901



harry A Mantell (head), emily, ambrose, nathan w, fred, george & CHARLES (born 1884, age 17)





could this be the same charles? could he be the son of charles?



grateful for any ideas

there is a birth of a charles ambrose mansell in 1883. I would guess this is the one in 1901 age 17, but what happened to the other one?



but i cant this one in 1891. LOL

This doesn't seem to fit but it does have the names Charles, Ambrose and Mansell so possibly connected somehow. It's a baptism from the London Met Archives online on ancestry:



born 23 March, baptised St Nicholas, Tooting Graveney, June 24th

Charles Walter Mansell, son of Ambrose Charles Mansell and Mary Ann Mansell of Tooting Graveney. Father's occupation farmer.

i think this is the 1876 one, but still cant work out which families they belong to, a bit confused why got 2 different charles's with my family as nephew.. LOL



[quote name='welshlady' date='15 January 2010 - 07:46 PM' timestamp='1263584807' post='212176']

this could be the charles born 1876



Name: Charles Edmund S Mansell

Year of Registration: 1876

Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar

District: Hackney

County: Greater London, London, Middlesex

Volume: 1b

Page: 478

[/quote]

Same family in 1881:

Defoe Road 1 Stanley Cottages, Tooting Graveney, Surrey

Ambrose C. MANSELL Head 32 Tooting, Surrey, General Smith

Mary A. MANSELL Wife 30 Ockley, Surrey

Charles W. MANSELL Son 4 Tooting, Surrey

Infant MANSELL Son 3 d Tooting, Surrey



RG11 0668 / 27 p.16

[quote name='Jeuel' date='16 January 2010 - 01:58 PM' timestamp='1263650301' post='212205']

This doesn't seem to fit but it does have the names Charles, Ambrose and Mansell so possibly connected somehow. It's a baptism from the London Met Archives online on ancestry:



born 23 March, baptised St Nicholas, Tooting Graveney, June 24th

Charles Walter Mansell, son of Ambrose Charles Mansell and Mary Ann Mansell of Tooting Graveney. Father's occupation farmer.

[/quote]



im not sure this is the same one, but it must be the same family.



I have ambrose mansell 1756-1836 & Mersey steer (also k/a mary ann)1760-1826

with a daughter sophia b1785 (who married charles constable)

not sure if any other children but he was a farmer - he is listed as GENTLEMAN of reigate at death.

? not sure of same branch.



I have a charles walter mansell b1881 holloway. son of henry mansell & henrietta.



did you have a date for that 23rd march entry please?

thanks

lisa

i have found ambrose charles mansell & mary ann in 1881 & 1891 with his son charles walter born 1877



This ambrose was born 1848 wandsworth, married dorking disrict 1876 to mary ann warren. ambrose died 1910, age 61 in the strand.





havent made any connection to my line unfortunately.

[quote name='welshlady' date='15 January 2010 - 07:46 PM' timestamp='1263584807' post='212176']

this could be the charles born 1876



Name: Charles Edmund S Mansell

Year of Registration: 1876

Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar

District: Hackney

County: Greater London, London, Middlesex

Volume: 1b

Page: 478

[/quote]





i do have an Edmund Salmon Mansell, but he died as a child, age 8. Edmund salmon mansell was born 1887 lambeth, died 1896 wandsworth. he was the son of william salmon mansell & charlotte mary dennis. he had a brother william salmon mansell born 1855 stepney, died 1858 islington. the parents william & cahrlotte had 2 surviving sisters but their children wouldnt be mansell.



william salmon mansell snr was the brother of theodore in my original message.

[quote name='welshlady' date='15 January 2010 - 07:46 PM' timestamp='1263584807' post='212176']

this could be the charles born 1876



Name: Charles Edmund S Mansell

Year of Registration: 1876

Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar

District: Hackney

County: Greater London, London, Middlesex

Volume: 1b

Page: 478

[/quote]





this one died as infant:

Deaths Jun 1876 (>99%)

Mansell Charles Edmund S 0 Hackney 1b 253



so that rules this one out.



still confused !! lol