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  1. 11-01-2010 05:01 AM #1
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    Hi Folks,

    Truly appreciate your help with these. They of course one family and a branch of my tree. If you know of the family or able to spend moment to research them I'd definitely appreciate your effort.

    The question is, who did they marry, where did they die and where?



    1st Name Surname D.O.B. Place Country D.O.D. Place Spouse.



    Zuesman Hart 1855 Whitechapel UK Unknown Unknown Julia Phillips

    Julia Phillips 1859 Whitechapel UK 1909 Long Acre, UK Zuesman Hart

    Isaac Hart 1876 Unknown Unknown Unknown Unknown Unknown

    Zalig Hart 1876 Unknown Unknown Unknown Unknown Unknown

    Rose Hart 1879 Unknown Unknown Unknown Unknown Unknown

    Marie Hart 1880 Unknown Unknown Unknown Unknown Jack Henriquez Valentine

    Lilly Hart 1882 Unknown Unknown Unknown Unknown Unknown

    Alfred Hart 1885 Unknown Unknown Unknown Unknown Unknown

    Harry Hart 1885 Unknown Unknown Unknown Unknown Unknown

    Joseph Hart 1887 Unknown Unknown Unknown Unknown Unknown

    Dick Hart 1888 Unknown Unknown Unknown Unknown Unknown

    Polly Hart 1890 Unknown Unknown Unknown Unknown Unknown

    Dolly Hart 1892 Unknown Unknown Unknown Unknown Unknown





    Thank you all for the efforts you will put in for me.

    Best wishes, Hawks
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    1891 England Census

    Name: Faliz Hart Age: 15 Estimated birth year: abt 1876

    Relation: Son Father's Name: Guesman Mother's Name: Julia

    Gender: Male Where born: Aldgate, London, England

    Civil parish: Bethnal Green

    Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew County/Island: London Country: England

    Street Address: 30 cambridge Road

    Guesman Hart 37 Fish salesman born Aldgate

    Julia Hart 34 Aldgate

    Faliz Hart 15 Bootmaker Aldgate

    Isaac Hart 14 Bootmaker Aldgate

    Rose Hart 12 Scholar Kingsland

    Marie Hart 11 Kingsland

    Lizzie Hart 9 Kingsland

    Abraham Hart 7 Kingsland

    Harry Hart 6 Whitechapel

    Joe Hart 4 Mile End

    Dicky Hart 3 Mile End

    Violet Hart 1 Mile End
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    England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915

    Name: Zuesman Hart Year of Registration: 1875

    Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: London City

    County: Greater London, London, Middlesex Volume: 1c Page: 173

    spouse : Julia Phillips



    Is this the same family, Have names changed? :

    1901 106 Long Acre, St Martins.

    HART, Quisman Head Married M 47 1854 Fishmonger Aldgate London * note First name

    HART, Julia Wife Married F 43 1858 Aldgate

    HART, Marie Daughter Single F 19 1882 Boot Machinist Stoke Newington London * change of birth place

    HART, Lily Daughter Single F 18 1883 Dressmaker (Lining) Stoke Newington London * Birth Place & is this Lizzie ??

    HART, Alfred Son M 16 1885 Clerk Mile End London ??

    HART, Harry Son M 15 1886 Tobacconist's Assistant Mile End London

    HART, Joseph Son M 14 1887 Fishmonger's Assistant Mile End London ??

    HART, Dick Son M 12 1889 Mile End London

    HART, Dolly Daughter F 9 1892 Mile EndLondon
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    Kitchin & Sharpe, Cumberland, Canada, USA : Dixon, Lancashire, Westmorland, USA
    Fell & Hanslow, Warwickshire, Staffordshire, USA Australia.
    Guess, Buckinghamshire : Meakins, Northamptonshire

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    Hi



    It is the same family the names have changed and I have had great difficulty finding them in 1911.



    Zusman (and variants!) Hart and Julia were my husband's gt x 2 grandparents. I know that Zusman remarried in 1916 but I have been unable to find him in 1911. He died in 1936.



    The only child I know about is Rose, who was my husband's gt grandmother. She decided to change her name to Rosella just to make things more interesting!
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    hi



    hope this he1ps



    1891

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    Hart Soloman 37 Head Fish Salesman Aldgate, London 30 Cambridge Rd, Bethnal Green, London

    Hart Julia 34 Wife - Aldgate, London 30 Cambridge Rd, Bethnal Green, London

    Hart Lily 16 Son Boot Maker Aldgate, London 30 Cambridge Rd, Bethnal Green, London

    Hart Isaac 14 Son Boot Maker Aldgate, London 30 Cambridge Rd, Bethnal Green, London

    Hart Rose 12 Dau Scholar Kingsland, London 30 Cambridge Rd, Bethnal Green, London

    Hart Marie 11 Dau Scholar Kingsland, London 30 Cambridge Rd, Bethnal Green, London

    Hart Lizzie 9 Dau Scholar Kingsland, London 30 Cambridge Rd, Bethnal Green, London

    Hart Abraham 7 Son Scholar Kingsland, London 30 Cambridge Rd, Bethnal Green, London

    Hart Harry 6 Son Scholar Whitechapel, London 30 Cambridge Rd, Bethnal Green, London

    Hart Joseph 4 Son Scholar Mile End, London 30 Cambridge Rd, Bethnal Green, London

    Hart Dicky 3 Son - Mile End, London 30 Cambridge Rd, Bethnal Green, London

    Hart Violet 1 Dau - Mile End, London 30 Cambridge Rd, Bethnal Green, London

    Walker Rosina 25 Servant General Servant Domestic Bethnal Green, London 30 Cambridge Rd, Bethnal Green, London





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    1901

    Hart Quesman 47 Head Fishmonger Aldgate, London 106 Long Acre, St Martin In The Fields, London

    Hart Julia 43 Wife - Aldgate, London 106 Long Acre, St Martin In The Fields, London

    Hart Marie 19 Daur Boot Machinist Stoke Newington, London 106 Long Acre, St Martin In The Fields, London

    Hart Lily 18 Daur Dressmaker (Living) Stoke Newington, London 106 Long Acre, St Martin In The Fields, London

    Hart Alfred 16 Son Clerk Commercial Mile End, London 106 Long Acre, St Martin In The Fields, London

    Hart Harry 15 Son Tobacconists Assistant Mile End, London 106 Long Acre, St Martin In The Fields, London

    Hart Joseph 14 Son Fishmonger's Assistant Mile End, London 106 Long Acre, St Martin In The Fields, London

    Hart Dick 12 Son - Mile End, London 106 Long Acre, St Martin In The Fields, London

    Hart Dolly 9 Daur - Mile End, London 106 Long Acre, St Martin In The Fields, London

    Walker Rose 34 Servant General Servant Domestic Bethnal Green, London 106 Long Acre, St Martin In The Fields, London

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    Hello



    I have PM'd you about widow Julia HART



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    [quote name='Jeuel' date='12 January 2010 - 04:33 AM' timestamp='1263234789' post='211918']

    Hi



    It is the same family the names have changed and I have had great difficulty finding them in 1911.



    Zusman (and variants!) Hart and Julia were my husband's gt x 2 grandparents. I know that Zusman remarried in 1916 but I have been unable to find him in 1911. He died in 1936.



    The only child I know about is Rose, who was my husband's gt grandmother. She decided to change her name to Rosella just to make things more interesting!

    [/quote]

    Hi Helen, good to catch up with you again.

    Would you know where Zuesman died?

    Who did he marry the 2nd time around?



    Wishing you and yours a great 2010, Ray [Hawks]
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    [quote name='noggin28' date='11 January 2010 - 07:52 PM' timestamp='1263203524' post='211895']

    England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915

    Name: Zuesman Hart Year of Registration: 1875

    Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: London City

    County: Greater London, London, Middlesex Volume: 1c Page: 173

    spouse : Julia Phillips



    Is this the same family, Have names changed? :

    1901 106 Long Acre, St Martins.

    HART, Quisman Head Married M 47 1854 Fishmonger Aldgate London * note First name

    HART, Julia Wife Married F 43 1858 Aldgate

    HART, Marie Daughter Single F 19 1882 Boot Machinist Stoke Newington London * change of birth place

    HART, Lily Daughter Single F 18 1883 Dressmaker (Lining) Stoke Newington London * Birth Place & is this Lizzie ??

    HART, Alfred Son M 16 1885 Clerk Mile End London ??

    HART, Harry Son M 15 1886 Tobacconist's Assistant Mile End London

    HART, Joseph Son M 14 1887 Fishmonger's Assistant Mile End London ??

    HART, Dick Son M 12 1889 Mile End London

    HART, Dolly Daughter F 9 1892 Mile EndLondon

    [/quote]



    Many thanks, managed to get some notes re the jobs and birth place or two.

    Regards, Ray [Hawks]
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    England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915

    Name: Jacob Henriques Valentine (Marie Hart spouse)

    Year of Registration: 1907

    Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep

    District: London City

    County: Greater London, London, Middlesex

    Volume: 1c

    Page: 85 (Have pm you about this marriage)



    1881 England Census

    Name: Isaces Hart Age: 70 Estimated birth year: abt 1811

    Relation: Father in Law ?

    Gender: Male Where born: Whitechapel

    Street Address: 523 Kingsland Rd West Side Occupation: General Dealer

    Lusman* Hart 27 Julia Hart 25 (another variation ?)

    Zalji Hart 6 Isaces Hart 5 Rose Hart 3 Polly Hart 1 ( you have Polly dob 1892 is this the same Family ? )

    Isaces Hart 70 (Father in Law 0r father?)

    Ester Philliphs 58 (Mother in law) states married
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    Guess, Buckinghamshire : Meakins, Northamptonshire

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    Thanks Elsabels



    My Julia Hart died 1909 I have the death cert.



    Ray



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    Marriages Dec 1916 Paddington 1a p.214 Zuesman Hart & Catherine A. Head



    death: Zuesman Hart Age at death (estimated): 82

    Death Registration Month/Year: Q3-Jul-Aug-Sep 1936 Paddington 1a Page: 45
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