Thread: SHEPTON MALLET, SOMERSET

A fellow member has told me that there is an IGI entry recording the birth of Eliza JARVIS in 1834 daughter of Gulielm & Elizabeth. Has anyone got access to the Parish Register of the Catholic Church of Shepton Mallet or IGI and could look for the marriage of Gulielm JARVIS to Elizabeth BURREL in the 1830's

[quote name='Bala' date='03 January 2010 - 07:04 PM' timestamp='1262567089' post='211458']

A fellow member has told me that there is an IGI entry recording the birth of Eliza JARVIS in 1834 daughter of Gulielm & Elizabeth. Has anyone got access to the Parish Register of the Catholic Church of Shepton Mallet or IGI and could look for the marriage of Gulielm JARVIS to Elizabeth BURREL in the 1830's

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Eliza Jarvis-born 01 Nov 1834-baptised 24 Nov 1834 Shepton Mallet-Gulielmi Jarvis and Eliza



Ed

[quote name='jcoltee' date='03 January 2010 - 09:45 PM' timestamp='1262576705' post='211465']

Eliza Jarvis-born 01 Nov 1834-baptised 24 Nov 1834 Shepton Mallet-Gulielmi Jarvis and Eliza



Ed

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Sorry but I forgot to mention that I did not see a marriage



Ed

Guliemi is probably Latinized version of William.

[quote name='Jeuel' date='04 January 2010 - 01:55 PM' timestamp='1262613345' post='211480']

Guliemi is probably Latinized version of William.

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Probably, Helen !!!!!! LOL



Mark

Marriage: Church of Sts Peter and Paul, Shepton Mallet ( C of E.parish church)

13 May 1834

William Jarvis sojourner, bachelor

Eliza Barwell otp, spinster

Witnesses: James Barwell

David Gaite

by banns



Baptism: St. Nicholas RC, Shepton Mallet

birth 01 Nov. 1834

baptism 24 Nov.1834

forename Eliza

Father William

Mother Eliza

Father's surname Jarvis

notes: ceremonies not used



From transcription available on the Freereg website: freereg.org.uk



hth,

Carmela

Thank you Carmela



William Jarvis sojourner - does sojourner mean NOT otp (of this Parish) or County?

Eliza Barwell pity it wasn't Burrel although with a dialect it sounds the same.

I see that the marriage was C of E and the Baptism RC



Best wishes





[quote name='Carmela' date='12 January 2010 - 06:55 AM' timestamp='1263279331' post='211948']

Marriage: Church of Sts Peter and Paul, Shepton Mallet ( C of E.parish church)

13 May 1834

William Jarvis sojourner, bachelor

Eliza Barwell otp, spinster

Witnesses: James Barwell

David Gaite

by banns



Baptism: St. Nicholas RC, Shepton Mallet

birth 01 Nov. 1834

baptism 24 Nov.1834

forename Eliza

Father William

Mother Eliza

Father's surname Jarvis

notes: ceremonies not used



From transcription available on the Freereg website: freereg.org.uk



hth,

Carmela

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[quote name='Bala' date='12 January 2010 - 06:13 AM' timestamp='1263305635' post='211958']

Thank you Carmela



William Jarvis sojourner - does sojourner mean NOT otp (of this Parish) or County?

Eliza Barwell pity it wasn't Burrel although with a dialect it sounds the same.

I see that the marriage was C of E and the Baptism RC



Best wishes

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Hello Bala,



Sojourner means not a permanent resident of the parish ( not entitled to Parish Relief, if he should become ill or unemployed) He could have been from anywhere, but most likely he was from a nearby village or town. Jarvis is a name that occurs in that part of Somerset, so he was probably of local origin.

Barwell is also a local name and is perhaps a variant of the more common Barrell. Perhaps Burrell is another variant or in this case, it could be just a mistranscription.



As to the C of E marriage, this was a legal requirement at the time. There was probably an RC marriage, too, but there may not be any record of it. I think this quotation from one of Michael Gandy's little books gives a good explanation of Catholic marriage practices:

Between 1754 and 1837 a legal marriage had to be in the Church of England. Very many Catholics therefore went through two ceremonies and many entries of Catholic marriage survive. However priests were aware that their marriages had no legal force and that therefore registration was not actually necessary. Richer catholics needed the state marriage to ensure legitimacy and inheritance while poorer Catholics were affected as regards Parish Relief and the Acts of Settlement.From

Catholic Missions and Registers, 1700-1880, Michael Gandy, in 6 volumes covering England, Scotland and Wales



Regards,

Carmela

Carmela

Sorry for this much delayed thank you - Your assistance and explanation. Very useful.

The daughter Eliza (b 1834) married a Jones - when/where unknown

The 1851 in Chelsea shows that her mother Eliza(beth) formerly Jarvis nee Burrell is now married(no record found.) to Benjamin ASHBY with twin boys born 1849 and daughter Eliza Jones a cabmans wife.

Who was Eliza with in 1841 - William JARVIS or Benjamin ASHBY and where

The search goes on

Thanks again