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    Default Seeking information James West b. 1826

    Hello there my name is Graeme Gibson, I'm a citizen of Vancouver, Canada and I'm new to this forum. I'm compiling information for a personal genealogical project to tracing back my own lineage for pure curiosity sake. Much of my maternal side of the family comes back from Gloucestershire England about a century ago at least according to family records. I would like to know more information in which I'm having troubles finding on many online genealogical databases regards to the following names and dates. This information provided below does come from the maternal side of the family tree.



    The troubles I'm having are specifically many of the free databases and other web sites don't have UK census or other records dating back prior to the 1850s. I'm curious if this could be the records dating back to this time period are not yet declassified or available for such inquiries as of yet? Where would I have to go look for the census or other records dating back 1820s?



    Out of curiosity I tried looking on census information in which I would assume you would have to be a citizen of the United Kingdom to look up this type of information? This is why I've came to this forum to seek any help and or assistance in tracing my material side of the family.





    James West b. 1826 d. 1891? married to Eliza Fleetwood

    Place of birth: Glouchestershire, England

    Death 1891?



    If any records are available public or otherwise, please do let me know.





    If there is any genealogist or expert in this field would assist me on this forum this would be deeply appreciated.



    Thank you very much for your time.

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    Default Re: Seeking information James West b. 1826

    Census in the UK start in 1841. Where in Glouchestershire was James West born ?
    '' No one knows who we are or where we are going until we have been and gone ''.

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    Census data courtesy & Copyright, of the UK National Archives

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    Default Re: Seeking information James West b. 1826

    Is this the couple married reg Northleach ?



    England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915







    Name:Eliza FleetwoodYear of Registration:1854Quarter of Registration:Apr-May-JunDistrict:NorthleachCounty:GloucestershireVolume:6aPage:633

    Spouse :James West
    '' No one knows who we are or where we are going until we have been and gone ''.

    Researching the following families;
    Kitchin & Sharpe, Cumberland, Canada, USA : Dixon, Lancashire, Westmorland, USA
    Fell & Hanslow, Warwickshire, Staffordshire, USA Australia.
    Guess, Buckinghamshire : Meakins, Northamptonshire

    Census data courtesy & Copyright, of the UK National Archives

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    Default Re: Seeking information James West b. 1826

    [quote name='noggin28']Census in the UK start in 1841. Where in Glouchestershire was James West born ?[/quote]



    As for the specific location of his birth according to my family records I'm not particularly certain which city or parish with in Gloucestershire. I do know he James West was born in Gloucestershire at the time. Thanks for the explanation regards the census keeping, that clarifies the main question why I could not find records online .



    The other question I have is would birth certificates and cemetery records be a better source for searching? And if so were they kept prior to census records in UK before 1841?



    Thank you.

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    Default Re: Seeking information James West b. 1826

    Hi,

    I have had a look on the Glos. Baptism Index. There are several James Wests but only one baptised around 1826



    James West

    Parents: Thomas and Ann

    Occupation: Shopkeeper

    Abode Painswick

    Bapt: 26 April 1827 St Mary Painswick



    There are two other children baptised in Painswick with parents Thomas and Ann but the father's occupation is different for each entry, so I'm not sure if they are the same Thomas and Ann West.



    Maryanne Clifford baptised 22/2/1818 Father's occ. Labourer



    Jane Blanch baptised 2/1/1820 Father's occ. Servant



    There is only one Eliza Fleetwood on the index so this one I feel sure about



    Eliza Fleetwood

    Parents: Charles and Mary

    Occupation: Labourer

    Abode: Aldsworth

    Baptised:28 Aug 1831 St Bartholomew Aldsworth



    The following children are her siblings, the parental details, occupation and abode being the same as for Eliza

    Edwin bapt. 14 July 1833

    Hannah bapt. 13 May 1837

    John bapt. 17 May 1829

    Richard bapt. 21 Feb 1836



    Hope this helps,

    Emeltee

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    Default Re: Seeking information James West b. 1826

    [quote name='emeltee']Hi,

    I have had a look on the Glos. Baptism Index. There are several James Wests but only one baptised around 1826



    James West

    Parents: Thomas and Ann

    Occupation: Shopkeeper

    Abode Painswick

    Bapt: 26 April 1827 St Mary Painswick



    There are two other children baptised in Painswick with parents Thomas and Ann but the father's occupation is different for each entry, so I'm not sure if they are the same Thomas and Ann West.



    Maryanne Clifford baptised 22/2/1818 Father's occ. Labourer



    Jane Blanch baptised 2/1/1820 Father's occ. Servant



    There is only one Eliza Fleetwood on the index so this one I feel sure about



    Eliza Fleetwood

    Parents: Charles and Mary

    Occupation: Labourer

    Abode: Aldsworth

    Baptised:28 Aug 1831 St Bartholomew Aldsworth



    The following children are her siblings, the parental details, occupation and abode being the same as for Eliza

    Edwin bapt. 14 July 1833

    Hannah bapt. 13 May 1837

    John bapt. 17 May 1829

    Richard bapt. 21 Feb 1836



    Hope this helps,

    Emeltee[/quote]



    Thanks you definitely this will help with the search although interesting regards the one baptism and the information provided. The information regards Eliza Fleetwood is intriguing.



    I do know the siblings names in my maternal side of the family from James West are:



    James West > Eliza Fleetwood: siblings are

    - Susan

    - James

    - Ted



    Thanks you Emiltee

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    Default Re: Seeking information James West b. 1826

    this would appear to be your family in 1861



    1861 England Census

    Name: Eliza West Age: 29 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832 Relation: Wife

    Spouse's Name: James Gender: Female

    Where born: Aldworth, Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: Coln St Aldwins

    County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England

    Occupation: of James carpenter

    Registration district: Northleach Sub-registration district: Bibury

    ED, institution, or vessel: 5

    Household schedule number: 95

    Household Members: Name Age

    James West 32 b Coln St Aldwins

    Eliza West 29 b Aldworth

    John West 6 b Aldworth

    Charles G West 3 b Aldworth
    '' No one knows who we are or where we are going until we have been and gone ''.

    Researching the following families;
    Kitchin & Sharpe, Cumberland, Canada, USA : Dixon, Lancashire, Westmorland, USA
    Fell & Hanslow, Warwickshire, Staffordshire, USA Australia.
    Guess, Buckinghamshire : Meakins, Northamptonshire

    Census data courtesy & Copyright, of the UK National Archives

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    Default Re: Seeking information James West b. 1826

    1851 England Census

    Name: James West Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829

    Relation: Son Father's Name: Edward Mother's Name: Elizabeth

    Gender: Male Where born: Coln, Gloucestershire, England

    Civil parish: Coln St Aldwin County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England

    Occupation: Both father and son are carpenters

    Registration district: Northleach

    Sub-registration district: Bibury

    ED, institution, or vessel: 11

    Neighbors: View others on page

    Household schedule number: 51

    Household Members: Name Age

    Edward West 60

    Elizabeth West 62

    Joseph West 30

    James West 22
    '' No one knows who we are or where we are going until we have been and gone ''.

    Researching the following families;
    Kitchin & Sharpe, Cumberland, Canada, USA : Dixon, Lancashire, Westmorland, USA
    Fell & Hanslow, Warwickshire, Staffordshire, USA Australia.
    Guess, Buckinghamshire : Meakins, Northamptonshire

    Census data courtesy & Copyright, of the UK National Archives

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    Default Re: Seeking information James West b. 1826

    1841 England Census

    Name: James West Age: 10

    Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831 Gender: Male

    Where born: Gloucestershire, England

    Civil parish: St Aldwins Coln Hundred: Brightwells Barrow

    County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England

    Occupation: father capenter

    Registration district: Northleach Sub-registration district: Bibury

    Household Members: Name Age

    Edward West 50

    Betty West 40

    Joseph West 20

    Sarah West 15

    James West 10

    Daniel West 6
    '' No one knows who we are or where we are going until we have been and gone ''.

    Researching the following families;
    Kitchin & Sharpe, Cumberland, Canada, USA : Dixon, Lancashire, Westmorland, USA
    Fell & Hanslow, Warwickshire, Staffordshire, USA Australia.
    Guess, Buckinghamshire : Meakins, Northamptonshire

    Census data courtesy & Copyright, of the UK National Archives

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    Default Re: Seeking information James West b. 1826

    [quote name='noggin28']this would appear to be your family in 1861



    1861 England Census

    Name: Eliza West Age: 29 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832 Relation: Wife

    Spouse's Name: James Gender: Female

    Where born: Aldworth, Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: Coln St Aldwins

    County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England

    Occupation: of James carpenter

    Registration district: Northleach Sub-registration district: Bibury

    ED, institution, or vessel: 5

    Household schedule number: 95

    Household Members: Name Age

    James West 32 b Coln St Aldwins

    Eliza West 29 b Aldworth

    John West 6 b Aldworth

    Charles G West 3 b Aldworth[/quote]



    Thanks for all your help in this

 

 

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