Thread: meaning of words

This is concerning the Cloake Family . Benjamin Cloake collecting money illegally and not being able to pay the malton what does that mean .

Alex Cloake bought 200 tiles for 2/- the schot or shot was unpaid

Any idea what these words mean

Anne

Hello



What pwriod of time have these occurred in?



Elsabels

Hi Anne22a,



Have you got the whole page that this was taken from ? malton could be the name of a person or a company. I think shot means the entire thing.

hi

is this yours as we11



Benjamin Cloake marriage to Elizabeth Proud 19 Jan 1698 or 99 in Lyminge Kent England



I have had a 1ook and found these two - same as your request. This p1ace is in Kent near Fo1kestone and seems to be the home of a 1ot of the same name - abeit with different spe11ings -C1OKE C1OCK COKE AS WE11 AS C1OAKE.



Do you have any more info - such as source of what you know - it wi11 he1p tie down the meaning of the words - cou1d be o1d En1gish or re1ate to trade or p1ace name etc?



cheers



bandit

These are the two documents . Words and Dates .

Cloake Ben Collecting money illegally 1610 unable to pay maltot 1614 farmer with corn , cattle , wool goodwill- and debts 1615-1616 TAMB

Wm fisherman 1605-1625 commoner 1610 freeman

1612 constable 1617 rented 160 acres from Herdson

1619 warden 1622-23 fined for bloodshed and fray

1672 juror and commoner 1633 sessor 1639 1642 TAMB.



Cloke Alex 200 Tiles bought from 2/- 1565 CWA f 158d; shot unpaid 16d 1567 f 165d; suit between and parish 1676 f 177d schot still unpaid and now 3/4 i bid ; it was paid 1577 f 179 but the dispute still continued f 179d. He died and the bell was rung for him 1587 f 197d, and for his wid in the same year i bid .

Yes Cloke was and still is spelt many ways . Most of them did come from Kent Area . This information came from Who,s Who Folkestone

Thank you for your help I have no idea what that all means .

Anne

hi



sti11 working on your words but have come across these 2



A1EX C1OKE CR. 19OCT 1579



AEX C1OKE AND CYS1IE MARCH MARRIED 2 DEC 1569 IN KENT



1oads of MARCH IN kent too.



just wondering if the writing is bad because of reading and writing probs



MA1OT cou1d be mat1ot as in sai1or



Wm fishmerman is quite common - possiby WI11IAM



for now



bandit

Hi



I dont know if this is of any use but it does make a bit more sense and is easier to read - is it nearer the truth?

Ben Cloake was collecting money illegally in 1610 unable to pay matlot

In 1614 farmer with corn , cattle , wool goodwill - and debts

In 1615-1616 TAMB

Wm fisherman 1605-1625 commoner

1610 freeman

1612 constable

1617 rented 160 acres from Herdson

1619 warden

1622-23 fined for bloodshed and fray

1672 juror and commoner

1633 sessor

1639 - 1642 TAMB.

Alex Cloke bought 200 Tiles for 2/- in 1565 CWA for 158d;

shot unpaid 16d in 1567 for 165d;

suit between and parish 1676 for 177d schot still unpaid and now ¾ - i think ;

In 1577 it was paid for 179 but the dispute still continued for 179d.

He died and the bell was rung for him in 1587 for 197d, and for his wife in the same year i think.

Perhaps - a work stiin progress

Bandit

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I have spent hours re reading these docoments I, think I have . Maltot is the farmer Ben had to pay the debt back too .

Schot is the payment that was to be made it was unpaid.

Hows that sound do , you think I have it right .

Anne

Hi

we11 I agree that money is owed and never paid back but I woud 1ove to know the meanings of the who1e thing and the words in capita1s. If you do get to the bottom of it pease post me back for my idid1e curiosity. Perhaps re - post

bandit

Hello bandit. I will let you know WHEN I trace the hole contant of the docements .

Thanks to you all in helping me .

Regards Anne