Thread: how do i find ruth

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my 5 x ggm was a RUTH SPEER (? variants). in census it states she was from the west indies.

her husband george was known to officials and it is possible the family might have been active in the methodist church or simular

i would appreciate any guidence on how to find ruths birth and entry into the uk.

THE INFO I HAVE ON THE FAMILY IS AS FOLLOWS



London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906

Name: George Frederic Booth

Record Type: Baptism

Date: 13 May 1814

Father's Name: Jeremiah Booth

Mother's Name: Susanna Booth

Parish: St Andrew Holborn

Borough: City Of London

County: London

Source Citation: Guildhall, St Andrew Holborn, Register of baptisms, 1813 - 1815, P69/AND2/A/01/Ms 6667/16

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London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name: George Frederick Booth

Spouse Name: Ruth Speer

Record Type: Banns

Event Date: 25 Aug 1816

Parish: St Andrew Holborn

County: London

Borough: City of London

Source Citation: Guildhall, St Andrew Holborn, Register of marriages, 1815 - 1817, P69/AND2/A/01/Ms 6672/2

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WILLIAM ALABASTER, theft : pick pocketing.

The Proceedings of the Old Bailey Ref: t18280529-260

Trial Summary:

Crime(s): theft : pick pocketing,

Punishment Type: transportation,

(Punishment details may be provided at the end of the trial.)

Verdict: Guilty,

Other trials on 29 May 1828

Name search for: WILLIAM ALABASTER,

Crime Location: Ludgate-hill

Associated Records...

The Proceedings of the Old Bailey 29th May, 1828

Original Text:

1339. WILLIAM ALABASTER was indicted for stealing, on the 23d of April, 1 handkerchief, value 1d., the goods of a man unknown, from his person .

GEORGE FREDERICK BOOTH . I am inspector of St. Brides' watch; I was on duty on Ludgate-hill about nine o'clock in the evening, on the 23d of April; I saw the prisoner go into a crowd; I watched him, and saw him take a handkerchief from a person unknown, and put it into his right hand pocket; I seized him, and just at that time there came a sudden rush in the crowd, which took the gentleman away - I took the prisoner to the watch-house; I am a chandler by trade, and have been an officer about twelve months - this is the handkerchief.

Prisoner's Defence. This man takes a false oath: I was going up Ludgate-hill, and saw the handkerchief on the ground - I took it up.

GUILTY . Aged 22.

Transported for Fourteen Years .

(He was witness in at least one other case)

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1841 England Census

Name: George Booth

Age: 46

Estimated birth year: abt 1795

Gender: Male

Civil parish: St Bride and Precinct

Hundred: London Without the Walls

County/Island: Middlesex

Country: England

Street address: sugar loaf court

Occupation: printer

Registration district: West London

Sub-registration district: South

Household Members: Name Age

George Booth 46

John Booth 14

Rush Booth 45

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 726; Book: 5; Civil Parish: St Bride and Precinct; County: Middlesex; Enumeration District: 12; Folio: 11; Page: 16; Line: 4; GSU roll: 438831.

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Deaths Sep 1842

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BOOTH George Frederick W London 2 187

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London, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1980

Name: George Frederick Booth

Record Type: Burial

Event Date: 19 Aug 1842

Age: 48 (of dropsey)

Estimated Birth Year: abt 1794

Parish: St Bride Fleet Street

Borough: City of London

County: London

Source Citation: Guildhall, St Bride Fleet Street, Register of burials, 1830 - 1846, P69/BRI/A/01/Ms 6543/3

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1841 England Census

Name: Rush Booth

Age: 45

Estimated birth year: abt 1796

Gender: Female

Civil parish: St Bride and Precinct

Hundred: London Without the Walls

County/Island: Middlesex

Country: England

Street address: sugar loaf court

Occupation: left blank

Registration district: West London

Sub-registration district: South

Household Members: Name Age

George Booth 46

John Booth 14

Rush Booth 45

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 726; Book: 5; Civil Parish: St Bride and Precinct; County: Middlesex; Enumeration District: 12; Folio: 11; Page: 16; Line: 5; GSU roll: 438831.

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1861 England Census

Name: Ruth Booth

Age: 60

Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801

Relation: Lodger

Gender: Female

Where born: Win B S (WEST INDIES)

Civil Parish: St Bride

County/Island: Middlesex

Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Registration district: London City

Sub-registration district: London City South West

ED, institution, or vessel: 7

Household schedule number: 549

Household Members: Name Age

Ruth Booth 60

Charles Davison 35

Lucy Davison 46

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 221; Folio: 42; Page: 2; GSU roll: 542594.

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1871 England Census

Name: Ruth Booth

Age: 75

Estimated Birth Year: abt 1796

Relation: Head

Gender: Female

Where born: West Indies

Civil Parish: St Bride

Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity

County/Island: London

Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Registration district: London City

Sub-registration district: St Bride

ED, institution, or vessel: 3b

Household schedule number: 550

Household Members: Name Age

Ruth Booth 75

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 424; Folio: 5; Page: 3; GSU roll: 824632.

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Deaths Jun 1878

BOOTH Ruth 85 London C. 1c 31

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Name Record Type Date Parent Names Parish/Poor Law Union Borough

George William Bap 26 Jul 1818 George Frederick,Ruth Booth St Andrew Holborn City of London

Margaret Eleanor Bap 12 Mar 1820 George Frederick,Ruth Booth St Andrew Holborn City of London

James Joseph Henry Bap 27 Dec 1824 George ,Ruth Booth St Andrew Holborn City of London

John Frederic Bap 3 Dec 1826 George Frederic ,Ruth Booth St Andrew Holborn City of London

Thomas Booth Bap 10 Jan 1830 George Frederick,Ruth Booth St Bride Fleet Street City of London

Thomas Booth Bap 10 Jan 1830 George Frederick,Ruth Booth St Bride Fleet Street City of London

Ruth's wedding at St Andrew Holborn, the image on Ancestry shows the witnesses as John William Booth and James Speer. James was probably Ruth's father or brother.

hi



I wasnt sure where you wanted to start - I think I have found this in 1941 1ondon - very simi1ar to yours



Booth George 46 - Printer No 1 Sugar Loaf Court, St. Bride, Middlesex HO107/0726/5/~F11 CD29 H_726-1.pdf p.116 Booth Ruth 45 - - No 1 Sugar Loaf Court, St. Bride, Middlesex HO107/0726/5/~F11 CD29 H_726-1.pdf p.116 Booth John 14 - - Yes 1 Sugar Loaf Court, St. Bride, Middlesex HO107/0726/5/~F11 CD29 H_726-1.pdf p.116 Booth James 17 - Apprentice On The Seas Yes 1 Sugar Loaf Court, St. Bride, Middlesex HO107/0726/5/~F11 CD29 H_726-1.pdf p.116

I wi11 try and see what I can find from o1der records as you seem to have got the other census records - however if you want confirmation of the other census 1et me know

regards

Bandit

john william was indeed georges brother and was bap'ed in 1782. i did also concider that james could be ruths brother or father but even his signing has not given me any clues on where to look for ruths parentage which seems to be some where in the west indies acording to the census. the 1861 states she was a british subject so where do i look? for her birth and entry to the uk

I don't know, it would help if you had a specific place (or island) in the West Indies. There might be a baptism on the IGI on www.familysearch.org



As for her entry into the UK I don't think ships' passengers' records go back that far.http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/s...senger%20lists



Cyndi's list has some West Indies websites:



http://www.cyndislist.com/caribbean.htm

hi - I have had a 1ook at some of the parishes in the Caribean Isands and was quite amazed to find there are 1arge number - Most of them are the discip1es names - a1so there are st 1ucy - st Anthony - St Phi1ip - st Kitts - St Eizabeth- St Andrew-St thomas- H so I wi try again. Hope Town - St George-District of Gregory Town- I a1so did a a genera search on the surname of Speer and did not come up with any. However the above parish 1ist is not difinative. I wi continue for you.Are you apsoutry sure the censud record is right did you see the origina1 record?



regards



Bandit

hi
i am still on the hunt for ruth. i send my thanks to you on your efforts so far. as you can see i did not drop by after my last post but i was taken ill so i apologize for having just posted again.