Thread: Joseph Redworth

Looking for the father/mother of Joseph Redworth who was born in middlesex c.1855. He eventually married in 1910 age 55, to his long time partner Kate Boswell. His marriage certificate gives his father as John Redworth. Any help appreciated.

Hi Lady Marrion



Thank you for your help.

John Redworth c. 1821 married Sarah 1840.........Posible ? grt grt grandfather. His Joseph was born 1850. (bit to early)



Joseph R Born 1865 could not have been my grt grand father.

Joseph R married 1875 .. .. .. .. ..

John Redworth b c 1821 married Sarah 1840 his 1st born was John W Redworth, Joseph was born 1850. (This might be my grt grt grd father but the age does not fit, baptismal / marriage of cencus records)

Hi Welshlady



Justines record is the same one. Both Justine and Justlinia are incorrect names. Niether Joseph or Kate could read nor write to spell the childs name. Her name was Justinier after her grand mother Justinier Dighton.



Joseph Daniel O'Leary Redworth may or may not have been a son who died in infancy, Again, was the mother Catherine, Kate? On no other records has she been named Catherine. ............... I shall follow through.



Again the last record is part of what I am really looking for. Joseph Redworth born 4th Feb. 1854, was Baptised 26th. Feb. 1854 at St John's Hampstead to parents James and Elizabeth Redworth.



This age is most consistant with his average age shown in the 1851 Census forward and the age shown on his marriage certificate but his father's name has been given as John.



Likewise, Joseph may also have been the son of John and Sarah Redworth

whose age has indicated to have been born c. 1850. Father's both John and James were born at Hampstead Misx, and both had a son Joseph.



My Grand father William Redworth was the son of Joseph Redworth and Kate Boswell. Niether had their births registered so no Certs are obtainable. To trace an indevidual from Census and Baptisms alone can be a fruitless task.



Thanks again Ray

Hello



I have just had a look at Kate Boswells' family and note on the 1851 census that the father Levi Boswell is desc as a Tinker / grinder from Ackford Gloucester....could this be the reason why there are no certificates available? On the 1861 census the head is shown as Zachariah Levi of Worcester....with children born in different counties



Joseph Redworth, could he be the son of James and Elizabeth nee LLoyd.....The family are on the1851 census at Hampstead, with the following children:

James b 1840

Fanny b1842 ( a name given to Jos & Kate's child)

Mary b 1845

Wm b 1847 "

Phoebe b 1850



On the 1861 Hampstead census this family are:

James 40 wid'r Lab Hampstead

Phoebe 8 "

Joseph 6 "



Phoebe's birth is reg 1850!



Elizabeth Redworth mother appears to have died in 14 July 1856 aged 46 bu 18/7/1856,



Good hunting

Elsabels

Hi Elsabels



Thank you four your observations. As you have seen for yourself the Census records are not always consistent and can show conflicting information.



Kate Boswells parents were Zachariah Boswell and Justinier Dighton. Zachariah's eldest Brother was indeed Levi Boswell as was his own first born son. Both the families are infact Romani Families. I am trying to establish whether Joseph Redworth married into the Romani Families or if he was also Romani.



It also true to say that it was not only itinerant people that did not register their children at birth or supply correct information to the enumerator, especially, as in the early part of the 19 century there were so many illiterate people through lack of schooling.



I have full ancestry of the Boswell and Dighton Families going back almost 3 hundred years, but cannot clarify the parentage of Joseph my Great Grand Father. In the 1891 Census, Joseph and Kate were living at Lewisham with Justinier Dau. Bap. 27/11/1874 William Son Bap. 12/11/1876 (my Grandfather) Emily Dau. 1879. Benjin Son 1884. Frances Dau 1887 and Asker Son 1890. They had two subsequent children that I know of Leonard and sarah.



The two records that you refer to not only conflict between 1851 and 1861, in subsequent census it becomes questionable as to whether Joshua is Joseph or that Joseph becomes no longer shown. Did he leave his family at an early age to live elsewhere?



My mother born 1900, knew Joseph her grand father, her recollection's complicates the issue. Joseph apparently spoke with a strong Welsh accent making it difficult for southerner's to understand him.



A was really hopeing that someone with specific knowledge of the family may see the posting and be able to adsvise as to the parentage of Joseph.



Regards Ray

Hello Ray



Thanks for an insight into your family, it makes a refreshing change from Ag Labs in Cumberland!



Sorry not much help. Will ponder over it !



Good hunting

Elsabels