Thread: Emma Martin- long crtichell- wimbourne

Hi all



this lady was born oct 1836 and is my grt gran x 2.She had ththree chd in eary 1860's which I know about.Emma , louisa and George. What I dont know is if she was married ,and who to.In 1881 in Cardiff she is down as widowed.She was an umbrella maker and I dont know where this came from as she was the first into this prof. There is a famiy in long crtichell who she coud belong to in long crtichell- to but they are Martin and that woud mean she never married or did not take a mans name. I can trace the ine through from there as Martin to Bristol and then Cardiff . She died in Cardiff 1889 and is buried there too. Any help to find another name would be great. cheers

Bandit

For others who are looking, this is the 1881 ref: RG11; Piece: 5276; Folio: 12; Page: 18



Not sure where Long Crtichell comes from, but that's clearly a misprint. In 1881 Emma says she is born in Dorset.

I can't find her in 1871. I guess the way forward would be to buy one of the children's birth certs and hope the father is named and Emma's maiden name is given.

Hi for those who answered



many thanks for your help but sorry if I misl ead you - Longer critchell, is in Dorset athough Dorset



I found the 1881 entry and the 1871 entry was RG 10 /5356 P8O - cardiff - her chidren were in dorset with her cousin - why? I dont know.



This the right person as it is linked to the shop/s she had -and i found in the trade directories the same info - aso it corb. by famiy members now dead.



in 1861 + she was in Bristol having the chidren - so I guess thats what I have do - ie get their certs. and see what names are on them.



There is a famiy of Martin in Longer critchell in the 1841 and 1851 census and her name is there but it doesnt make sense as there is no sign of a marriage and no one in the famiy knew of it . Others in the famiy have searched but we all have drawn a blank.. the search gos on thanks tho.



bandit

Hi Bandit,



Could this be Emma in 1851? If it's any help, my great great grandmother had two children, both out of wedlock!



1851 England Census 1851 England Census



Name:Emma MartinAge:16Estimated Birth Year:abt 1835Relation:ServantGender:FemaleWhere born:Chritchel, Dorset, EnglandCivil parish:Gussage All SaintsCounty/IslandorsetCountry:EnglandStreet Address:



Occupation:



Condition as to marriage:



Disability:



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Registration district:WimborneSub-registration district:CranborneED, institution, or vessel:3Neighbors:View others on page Household schedule number:68Household Members:NameAgeJohn Friend50Emma Friend35Charles Friend7Frances Friend6John Friend5Emma Friend4Hugh Friend3Augustus Friend2Ann Friend10 MoCharles Stagg33Ann Roses22Emma Martin16Emily Frampton15

Hi



you have given me goose bumps - it is possibe that this is the person but the dob is is 1935 - i have looked it up and have saved the detais.



But let me say my Emma is my mothers grandmother's mother so 2 x great and you are saying the same . If we have the right person we are in the same family.The Martins married into the Cole family 26 feb 1888 - is this the same family as you? if so how do you fit in



regards



bandit

Hi Bandit,



I'm sorry, I wasn't very clear in my last message. What I meant was, I had a similar thing in my family tree, where my 2xgreat grandmother had two sons, but she never married-they were illegitimate.



Sorry again if I got your hopes up!



However, I have found this-have you seen it?



1841 England Census 1841 England Census



Name:Emma MartinAge:5Estimated Birth Year:abt 1836Gender:FemaleWhere bornorset, EnglandCivil parish:Long CritchillHundred:KnowltonCounty/IslandorsetCountry:EnglandStreet Address:



Occupation:



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Registration district:Wimborne and CranborneSub-registration district:CranborneNeighbors:View others on page Household Members:NameAgeHenry Martin35Lonzea Martin30Emma Martin5Thomas Martin3Ketturah Martin2Henry Martin1

hI



yes this is the record i found as its based on 1836. Sorry yours is not the same but I understand about the iegitamate. Perhaps this is why she left them in Dorset whist she worked in the shop in Cardiff. Most of these ended up in Cardiff eventual ly as adults.

I guess the search goes on -but thanks fo trying.

kind regards

Bandit

Hi Bandit,



In your 1st message you say Emma was born october 1836. Do you know where this information comes from?



I have found this christening record, but it's for may 1836



Emma MartenPedigree Female Event(s):Birth: Christening: 08 MAY 1836 Long Critchell, Dorset, EnglandDeath: Burial: Parents: Father: Henry Marten Family Mother: Louisa

Hi MRs



sorry to mis1ead you - I have the month of May as we11 - but if this is her- the transcriber has made a mistake as it shoud be Martin - I have seen this record - if her chi1dren were born out of marriage then this woud be her name. I am sti11 1ooking fora marriage. thanks anyway



bandit