Thread: help with brickwall please

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right here is my problem I have No relatives to ask about this. My great grandfather was james hurst born 1882 blackrod his father was john hurst born on census records as 1847 bolton. married to catherine she was catherine jackson born 1856-7 liverpool. her mum was mary hall born 1834 dublin..married to george jackson born 1825 nottinghamshire. they married in 1853 nottinghamshire. I have the marriage certificate only. it says marys dad was john hall georges dad was joseph jackson. right should be easy but its not someone on ancestry who's researching same family has sent for catherines brother george jackson cert born 1863 hull. its stumped me and them as the name of mother to george is mary Clandinnan and george jackson father? I cant get catherines birth cert as I dont have details of her birth only it was 1856-7 liverpool. there is no trace of john hall or joseph jackson on census and how can marriage details say nottinghamshire and hall yet childrens birth cert as Clandinnan am so brick walled and only a learner. the other problem is with grt grandfather john hurst catherines husband which is another long story as register office say they have no birth registered yet its on census record as john hurst born bolton 1847 father james hurst. twist is on he and catherines marriage cert it says john is born 1849 bolton father james. the only family that the register office have is a james and sarah but there john is still with his aged parents in 1891 my john was married to catherine then? am so bewildered thinking of giving it all up ps in 1841 census mary hall and her sisters live with thomas hall who I think is grandfather.xx

hi noggin28



yes its the right family. james went on to mary lucy jane foster in 1903 they where my dads parents my dad was george twin to helen born 1919. its john james dad that causes the problem as on his marriage cert it says his dad was also james hurst and johns was born 1849? yet on 1881 census he and catherine live in blackrod with catherines mum mary and it says he was born 1847? register office of births cant help as the only one they give is the james and sarah as johns parents its not them

sorry we posted at the same time, the marriage was 1873 wigan her dad was defo george jackson and john was james hurst sorry was trying in my post to get everything in its johns dad and mary hall thats the problem as catherines brother george jacksons brother born 1863 hull says mum was mary cladinnan and dad george jackson. sorry about not telling I have marriage cert. I also have george and marys 1853 nottingham she was hall on that so why is cladinnan on childrens birth ? the cert says marys dad is john hall georges is joseph jackson ....what a mess

hi yes see what I mean all census records are different ages but on the 1881 it says mother in law lol child bride maybe ? its all odd what a family I got