Thread: george edward LEA (otherwise JEWELL) born 1904-died 1977

need some help with a family puzzle.......i am looking for a 2nd marriage or 1st divorce, i am looking for the location of this man between 1929 & 1950.





George Edward Lea was born in Walthamstow (east London, then ESSEX) on 27 Oct 1904.



George Edward Lea joined the Army.



13 nov 1924 in Thanet , Kent - this man married Miss D. ARTHUR. he married using the name GEORGE EDWARD JEWELL.



1925, son born - surname JEWELL.



1927 - daughter born Minster, Thanet, Kent. surname JEWELL. she died 13 aug 1928 Walthamstow, essex surname LEA.



1929 - son born , surname JEWELL.



1929 re-joined the army, Essex Regiment - no next of kin listed, no children listed.



Had 3 further children, surname of children LEA - all born Hackeny, london 1950,1955,1957. mother unknown.



LOOKING FOR THE MOTHER or the last 3 children, A marriage to the mother.



did this man have any other children between 1929 & 1950? where was he in this time?



why did he use the name JEWELL?



the son born 1925 is my cousin and he would like to know more about his dad.



any help would be much appreciated.

have been stuck on this for years.

Hi Lisa



Have a couple of ideas but as we are dealing with possibly living people I know that you cannot post any further details re: the above - if you woud like to PM me with any additional info. I will happily compare it with what I have found so far, to see if any of it fits.

[quote name='lisabyrne']



13 nov 1924 in Thanet , Kent - this man married Miss D. ARTHUR. he married using the name GEORGE EDWARD JEWELL.



1925, son born - surname JEWELL.



1927 - daughter born Minster, Thanet, Kent. surname JEWELL. she died 13 aug 1928 Walthamstow, essex surname LEA.



1929 - son born , surname JEWELL.



1929 re-joined the army, Essex Regiment - no next of kin listed, no children listed.



Had 3 further children, surname of children LEA - all born Hackeny, london 1950,1955,1957. mother unknown.



LOOKING FOR THE MOTHER or the last 3 children, A marriage to the mother.



did this man have any other children between 1929 & 1950? where was he in this time?



why did he use the name JEWELL?



the son born 1925 is my cousin and he would like to know more about his dad.

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Hi Lisa,



I note Geniegenie has offered to help you via pm, and although this is ethical practice if people are living it doesn't help other members to see how far you've got with solving the puzzle. So, if I'm giving ideas Geniegenie has already put to you - please forgive my intrusion.



I've done some digging around and think the dau born 1927 died 1928, probably had her death registered under the name Jewell.



Is it possible the children born later, ie from 1950 onwards were born illegitimately, that although their father was named Jewell the parents weren't married and therefore they took their mother's surname Lea?

The mother's maiden name would be listed in the birth indexes.

Well he started off as Lea:



George Edward Lea

1904 Oct-Nov-Dec West Ham Volume: 4a Page: 476



The question is why he changed his name before he married Miss Arthur? If they married in 1924 George would have been only 19 or 20 and would have needed parental consent to marry. Did he use a different name and pretend he was 21?

[quote name='slizzy']Hi Lisa,



I note Geniegenie has offered to help you via pm, and although this is ethical practice if people are living it doesn't help other members to see how far you've got with solving the puzzle. So, if I'm giving ideas Geniegenie has already put to you - please forgive my intrusion.

[/quote]



[quote name='Jeuel']Well he started off as Lea:



George Edward Lea

1904 Oct-Nov-Dec West Ham Volume: 4a Page: 476



. Did he use a different name and pretend he was 21?[/quote]



This is the point I was making, Jeuel, when I said posts answered via pm don't help other members to see where the search has gone. Do we know for certain he was born in West Ham, could he have been born elsewhere?



A George Edward Jewell was born 1st qrt 1902 in Truro, Cornwall.

i am looking for the west ham one. he was born in walthamstow, which was west ham district back then.



i have his birth, first marriage cert and death cert as well as some of the childrens certificates. (i do have that death cert for the daughter) also west ham)



i think he was AWOL (Absent without leave) from the army at first marriage and without asking him can only guess he lied about his name to get a job and one lie turned to another and they got bigger, ?? he eventually married whilst in hiding and when his daughter became ill he then arrived back in walthamstow for some help from his parents ?? and the change of name then was discovered. (just a guess, but the best thing i can come up with).





he may have changed his name to marry and hide his age, he may have changed it because he was AWOL, he may have changed it to get a job (he was a hospital porter in 1924 and a tram driver 1925.

when the child died in 1928 the death is recorded as 'Jewell, otherwise LEA'. register of death was my great grandma Eliza Lea of walthamstow.



it was this death that proved the family Jewell was infact Lea but as George married in another name they carried on that name.



i have now got the 2nd marriage in 1947 and am going to apply for the certificate and see where that takes me.



the only link to Jewell that i can find is that george and his parents once lived in JEWELL ROAD, Walthamstow. its a real long shot but the only hing i can connect.



thanks for your comments.



i do wish sometimes these long lost rellies would leave us a few more clues, i would love to have met him for a cuppa. LOL



thanks again

lisa

i am stuck on some of his ancestors too.....



george edward lea b1904 have him in above post



father: George Charles lea b1885, died 1955 Hackney,London.

mother: Eliza Jane Fentiman 1883-1956



grandfather : George Edward Lea born 1862 Bethnal green

grandmother Ellen Allen born 1865 ? maybe leytonstone.

married 1884 Bethnal green london

children of george and ellen: george 1885, ernest 1896, alfred 1890, ellen 1892, frederick ? (ellen married someone called Bill. ernest was on HMS lord nelson? ship, think a sailor.) cant find anything lese on siblings





ggrandfather: Charles lea born 1834 St Pancras.

GGmother : MARY born c1833 somerset.

children of charles and mary: william 1860,george edward 1862, jemima 1866, frederick john 1871, eliza 1875, isaac edwin 1877

cant find a marriage or any parents or birth for charles and mary





charles leas mother Mary born c1803 Highgate ? died after 1881? listed with charles and mary in one census , cant find on any other census.

[quote name='lisabyrne']i am stuck on some of his ancestors too.....

ggrandfather: Charles lea born 1834 St Pancras.

GGmother : MARY born c1833 somerset.

children of charles and mary: william 1860,george edward 1862, jemima 1866, frederick john 1871, eliza 1875, isaac edwin 1877

cant find a marriage or any parents or birth for charles and mary [/quote]



Hi Lisa, this could be the marriage: Charles Lea, 4th qrt 1855, St Luke, Middlesex, vol 1b page 733. On the same page Mary Slocombe.

The 1851 census has three Mary Slocombe's born in Somerset.



1. born 1833 Bawdrip

2. born 1834 Wiveslicombe

3. born 1835 Timberscombe