Thread: Marriage Kent WELLS 1830

Still in Kent…….. this time trying to suss out which of two Sarah SCUDDER/SKUDDER/SCUDDENs married Thomas Packman WELLS in Oct 1830.



Problem being, one bn Eltham and one bn Bexley, one married Deptford and one possibly Eltham or Bexley or Knockholt.

Would the parents’ names be on the record?



This is one of my direct line and we have conflicting info on all info re Sarah



Many thanks once again, Glen

Before 1837 it was unsual for parents to be named unless they were the wittness to marriage .

Thanks for the info Welshlady. I should have mentioned that Thomas & Sarah were in New Zealand by 1855, so only the '41 & '51 census are relevant.

Could you tell me what Pallots says please?

Appreciate your time.

Cheers, Glen



[quote name='welshlady']well the marriage record on pallots does not give any clues







but in the 1871 1881 and 1891 census there is a sarah wells born knockholt.[/QUOTE]

Thanks once again Chris. Any suggestions as to where I might find where Sarah was born so I get the right lady?

Cheers, Glen



[quote name='Chris']Before 1837 it was unsual for parents to be named unless they were the wittness to marriage .[/QUOTE]

Yes Noggin28, it's a choice of Eltham or Bexley. I am fairly sure she was bap in Bexley to James & Sarah, but there is another Sarah married same month & year, bn Eltham, in our records who is causing the problem.

Wonder why they would marry at Deptford when neither of them were bn there?

I have seen the IGI record and was hoping someone had access to Parish records for the 3 possible towns (ie Eltham, Bexley and Knockholt) to rule them out as marriage places.

Confused?.... Me too.

Cheers, Glen



[quote name='noggin28']I assume this is the marriage you refer to. Are you now looking for Sarahs DOB and birth place ?



IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles THOMAS PACKMAN WELLS

Marriages: Spouse: SARAH SCUDDER

Marriage: 18 OCT 1830 Saint Paul, Deptford, Kent, England[/QUOTE]

Hi Welshlady,

I would have thought the Sarah d/o William & Nancy was the one too, but on her death cert it stated James & Sarah as her parents with surname of SCUDDEN (which we think is a typo.)



James SCUDDER - d1813

Sarah UNKNOWN - d1805

"Parents as per DC. Surname as SCUDDEN not SCUDDER Father's Occ: Labourer."



Marriage Cert reads.

Thomas Packman Wells bachelor.

Sarah Scudder spinster. -- both of this parish.

Married by Banns -- 18th October 1830 -- by T F Walker -- Curate.

Witnesses -- Joseph Edward Wells, -- Ann Lander.

(But I do not have a copy and this was sent to me by another family member without the parish name)



I have the 1851 Census, but not the 1841

*1851 England Census

Name: Sarah Weles [Sarah Wells]

Age: 46 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1805

Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Thomas

Gender: Female Where born: Bexley, Kent, England

Civil parish: Foots Cray County/Island: Kent Country: England

Occupation: Wood cutter

Registration district: Bromley Sub-registration district: Bromley

ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Household schedule number: 57

Household Members: Name Age

Thomas Wells 45 (bap St. Katherines, Knockholt, KEN, ENG)

Sarah Wells 46 (bap St. Martin's, Bexley, KEN, ENG)

Amelia Wells 18 (bap Foots Cray, Kent, England)

Roseta Wells 16 (bap St. Martin's, Bexley, KEN, ENG)

Edwin Wells 10 (bap St. Martin's, Bexley, KEN, ENG)

James Wells 9 (bap St. Martin's, Bexley, KEN, ENG)

Edgar Wells 6 (bap St. Martin's, Bexley, KEN, ENG)

Hannah Martin 19



It's looking more and more like Sarah is the d/o James & Sarah, bap at Bexley and she may have married Thomas at Deptford, but I wonder why they were there, is it far from Knockholt?



Maybe the 1841 Census will show they were living at Bexley as that is where most of their chn seem to be born, except for Amelia who was bap at Foots Cray and they were back in Foot's Cray by 1851, yet their last child Miriam was bn back in Bexley in 1852. Talk about nomads........





[quote name='welshlady']igi has



SARAH SKUDDER Female

Christening: 16 OCT 1803 Saint Paul, Deptford, London, England Parents: Father: WILLM. SKUDDER Mother: NANCY EDEN



this is probably the sarah getting married deptford to thomas packman wells



and



SARAH SCUDDER Female

Christening: 09 AUG 1805 Bexley, Kent, England

Parents: Father: JAMES SCUDDER Family Mother: SARAH

do you have info on the children they had which might help locate the right one. do you have them in the 1841 and 1851 census.[/QUOTE]