Thread: correction on Wynn

Sorry Guys I got the name wrong on my previous thread, we are looking for Rowland Turner Jarvis Wynn & Mary Jane (Wynn) nee Ellis so any info regarding either eg birth where and what dates and any info on Mary Jane would be great. Mary was also known as Polly

Many Thanks

possible marriage Dec 1899



Duncalf Kate Lear Dartford

Ellis Mary Jane Dartford

Riches Alfred William Dartford

Wynn Rowland Turner J Dartford



possible birth

Wynn Rowland Turner J Lambeth Jun 1878





so this gives an idea of area ?



possible 1881 census



Putney, Surrey, England



William Turner WYNN Head M Male 36 Knottingly, York, England School Master

Mary Ann WYNN Wife M Female 35 Kingston, York, England



Margaret L. WYNN Daugh Female 12 Stoke Podges, Buckingham, England Scholar

Annie M.P. WYNN Daugh Female 10 Stoke Podges, Buckingham, England Scholar



Eleanor F. WYNN Daugh Female 8 Brixton, Surrey, England Scholar



Cecilia G. WYNN Daugh Female 5 Brixton, Surrey, England Scholar



*****Roland T.J. WYNN Son Male 3 Brixton, Surrey, England









Ellis is a rather more common name and there are loads os possibles. I think you will need the M/C so you will have a few more details for her.

Hi



Note this may be his first marriage for his Dad



Marriages Dec 1866

PRATT Mary A Wandsworth 1d 825

Wynn William T Wandsworth 1d 825



However in 1891 he has a 21 year old wife.... The Buddry child confirms it.



Deaths Sep 1887

Wynn Mary Ann aged 41 Brentford 3a 82



Marriages Dec 1890

BUDDRY Mary Islington 1b 440

Wynn William Turner Islington 1b 440





1891 England Census for Beaufort, Woolwich Road, Erith, Belvedere, Kent

Name: Rowland T J Wynn

Age: 13

Household Members:

Name Age

William T Wynn 46 Head of family Headmaster of Board School b Knottingley, Yorks

Mary Wynn 21 Wife b Paddington, Middlesex

Annie M Wynn 20 Dau Nursery Governess b Stoke Poges, Buckinghamshire

Eleanor F Wynn 18 Dau Pupil Teacher b Brixton, Surrey

Cecilia G Wynn 15 Dau b Brixton, Surrey

Rowland T J Wynn 13 Son Scholar b Brixton, Surrey

Evelyn Buddrey 3 Niece b Paddington, Middlesex

Emma Styles 19 General Servant Eynsham, Oxfordshire

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 638; Folio 74; Page 10; GSU roll: 6095748

No sign of William Turner Wynn's birth in 1844



1851 England Census for 22 Kidd Street, Woolwich Dockyard, kent

Name: John Winn

Age: 31

Household Members:

Name Age

John Winn 31 Head of family Joiner in HM Dockyard b Pontefract, Yorkshire

Sarah Winn 27 b Darlington, Yorkshire

Sarah A Winn 3 b Woolwich, Kent

Mary Winn 1 b Woolwich, Kent

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1588; Folio: 224; Page: 40; GSU roll: 174825.



1861 England Census for 19 Upper Hardshott, Woolwich Dockyard, Kent

Name: William S Winn

Age: 16

Household Members:

Name Age

John Winn 41 Head of family Joiner in HM Dockyard b Pontefract, Yorkshire

Sarah Winn 38 Wife b Darlington, Yorkshire

William T Winn 16 Pupil Teacher b Knottingley, Yorks

Sarah A Winn 13 b Woolwich, Kent

Mary Winn 11 Scholar b Woolwich, Kent

John J Winn 9 Scholar b Woolwich, Kent

Joseph Winn 6 Scholar b Woolwich, Kent

Elizabeth Winn 5 Scholar b Woolwich, Kent

Jane Winn 2 b Woolwich, Kent

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 405; Folio: 37; Page: 25; GSU roll: 542632.



Births Mar 1846

PRATT Mary Ann Thirsk 24 527



Thirsk Registration District covers Knayton, Yorkshire



1871 England Census for the National School, Stoke Poges, Buckinghamshire

Name: William T Wynn

Age: 26

Household Members:

Name Age

William T Wynn 26 Head of family Certified Schoolmaster b Knottingley, Yorks

Mary Ann Wynn 25 b Knapton, York

Margaret E Wynn 2 b Stoke Poges, Buckinghamshire

Anna M F Wynn 9 months b Stoke Poges, Buckinghamshire

Margaret Pluck 11 Servant & Scholar b Sherbourn, County Durham

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 1402; Folio: 144; Page: 21; GSU roll: 828507.

This appears to be the origin of the name Rowland in the family



IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0

British Isles

Search Results

Rowland Winn

Event(s):

Birth: About 1759 Of, Ledsham, Yorkshire, England

Marriages:

Spouse: Mary Thompson

Marriage: 08 or 03 JUN 1784

Source Information:

Film Number: 449742 Page Number: 0099 Reference number: 16182



IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0

British Isles

Search Results

GERVASE WINN

Event(s):

Christening: 05 OCT 1792 Ledsham, Yorkshire, England

Parents:

Father: ROWLAND WINN

Source Information:

Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

P004151 1539 - 1812 0496809 Film 0471850 Film

P004151 1539 - 1812 0496809 Film NONE

P004151 1539 - 1812 0496809 Film NONE

P004151 1539 - 1812 0496809 Film NONE Sheet: 00



1841 England Census for East Hardwick, Pontefract, Yorkshire

Name: Jarvis Winn

Age: 45

Household Members: All born in County of Yorkshire

Name Age

Jarvis Winn 45 Brickmaker

Mary Winn 45

Jarvis Winn 15

Joseph Winn 8

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 1310; Book: 9; Civil Parish: Pontefract; County: Yorkshire; Enumeration District: 15A; Folio: 3; Page: 2; Line: 9; GSU roll: 464267.



This could possibly John and Sarah's marriage



Marriages Mar 1845

ELLIS Sarah Ripon 23 461

WINN John Ripon 23 461



No sign of William Turner Wynn's birth in 1844



1851 England Census for East Hardwick, Pontefract, Yorkshire

Name: William Sarna Winn [Turner on image]

Age: 6

Household Members:

Name Age

Jarvis Winn 58 Head of family Farmer b Fairburn, Yorkshire

Mary Ann Winn 56 b Badsworth, Yorkshire

Ann Winn 31 b Normanton, Yorkshire

Joseph Winn 18 Labourer Brickmaker b East Hardwick, Yorkshire

William Sarna Winn 6 Grandson Scholar b Knottingley, Yorks

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2330; Folio: 29; Page: 8; GSU roll: 87572.



Should keep you busy for a while DD

Thanks everso much you're a star, my husband and his mum can start to put this together tomorrow, before she flies back to Spain on Thursday.

If I can help further, let me know

Births Dec 1852

PAINTER Elizabeth Mary Ann Malmesbury 5a 32



The purchase of the above Birth Certificate will pinpoint which Elizabeth in Hankerton is the right one.



Edward Ellis birth is not certain



Marriages Sep 1868

Ellis Edward Dartford 2a 513

Painter Elizabeth Mary A Dartford 2a 513



Births Jun 1880

ELLIS Mary Jane Dartford 2a 437





1881 England Census for 16 Victoria Street, Belvedere, Erith, Kent

Name: Elizth. Ellis

Age: 29

Household Members:

Name Age

Edward Ellis 36 Head of family Bricklayers Labourer b Old Ripley, Kent

Elizth. Ellis 29 Wife Laundress b Hankerton, Wiltshire

Anne Ellis 7 Scholar b Belvedere, Kent

Rossia Ellis 4 b Belvedere, Kent

Amy Ellis 2 b Belvedere, Kent

Mary Ellis 10 Mo b Belvedere, Kent

Emily Green 14 Domestic Servant b Woolwich, Kent

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 864; Folio: 40; Page: 22; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341205.



1891 England Census for 45 Abbey Mount, Erith, Kent

Name: Mary Ellis

Age: 10

Household Members:

Name Age

Edward Ellis 45 Head of family General Labourer b Erith, Kent

Elizabeth Ellis 38 b Erith, Kent

Annie Ellis 17 General Domestic Servant b Erith, Kent

Rosetta Ellis 15 b Erith, Kent

Amy Ellis 12 Scholar b Erith, Kent

Mary Ellis 10 b Erith, Kent

William Ellis 5 b Erith, Kent

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 638; Folio 76; Page 14; GSU roll: 6095748.



Marriages Dec 1899

Ellis Mary Jane Dartford 2a 1051

Wynn Rowland Turner J Dartford 2a 1051



I am unable to find Rowland in the 1901 Census, or either of them in the 1911 census!!



Mary Jane very obligingly stays with her parents in 1901



1901 England Census for Raglan Road, Erith, Kent

Name: Mary J Wynn

[Mary J Ellis]

Age: 20

Household Members:

Name Age

Edward Ellis 45 Head of family General Labourer b Bexley, Kent

Elizbth M A Ellis 48 b Hankerton, Wiltshire

Amy Louisa Ellis 22 b Belvedere, Kent

Willm F Ellis 15 General Labourer Cable Works b Belvedere, Kent

Mary J Wynn 20 Dau Mar b Belvedere, Kent

Sybil M E Wynn 4 months b Belvedere, Kent

Andrew B Watkins 19 Boarder Plumbers Labourer b Brentwood, Essex

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 701; Folio: 8; Page: 8.