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    Sorry Guys I got the name wrong on my previous thread, we are looking for Rowland Turner Jarvis Wynn & Mary Jane (Wynn) nee Ellis so any info regarding either eg birth where and what dates and any info on Mary Jane would be great. Mary was also known as Polly

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    possible marriage Dec 1899



    Duncalf Kate Lear Dartford

    Ellis Mary Jane Dartford

    Riches Alfred William Dartford

    Wynn Rowland Turner J Dartford



    possible birth

    Wynn Rowland Turner J Lambeth Jun 1878





    so this gives an idea of area ?



    possible 1881 census



    Putney, Surrey, England



    William Turner WYNN Head M Male 36 Knottingly, York, England School Master

    Mary Ann WYNN Wife M Female 35 Kingston, York, England



    Margaret L. WYNN Daugh Female 12 Stoke Podges, Buckingham, England Scholar

    Annie M.P. WYNN Daugh Female 10 Stoke Podges, Buckingham, England Scholar



    Eleanor F. WYNN Daugh Female 8 Brixton, Surrey, England Scholar



    Cecilia G. WYNN Daugh Female 5 Brixton, Surrey, England Scholar



    *****Roland T.J. WYNN Son Male 3 Brixton, Surrey, England









    Ellis is a rather more common name and there are loads os possibles. I think you will need the M/C so you will have a few more details for her.

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    Hi



    Note this may be his first marriage for his Dad



    Marriages Dec 1866

    PRATT Mary A Wandsworth 1d 825

    Wynn William T Wandsworth 1d 825



    However in 1891 he has a 21 year old wife.... The Buddry child confirms it.



    Deaths Sep 1887

    Wynn Mary Ann aged 41 Brentford 3a 82



    Marriages Dec 1890

    BUDDRY Mary Islington 1b 440

    Wynn William Turner Islington 1b 440





    1891 England Census for Beaufort, Woolwich Road, Erith, Belvedere, Kent

    Name: Rowland T J Wynn

    Age: 13

    Household Members:

    Name Age

    William T Wynn 46 Head of family Headmaster of Board School b Knottingley, Yorks

    Mary Wynn 21 Wife b Paddington, Middlesex

    Annie M Wynn 20 Dau Nursery Governess b Stoke Poges, Buckinghamshire

    Eleanor F Wynn 18 Dau Pupil Teacher b Brixton, Surrey

    Cecilia G Wynn 15 Dau b Brixton, Surrey

    Rowland T J Wynn 13 Son Scholar b Brixton, Surrey

    Evelyn Buddrey 3 Niece b Paddington, Middlesex

    Emma Styles 19 General Servant Eynsham, Oxfordshire

    Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 638; Folio 74; Page 10; GSU roll: 6095748

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    No sign of William Turner Wynn's birth in 1844



    1851 England Census for 22 Kidd Street, Woolwich Dockyard, kent

    Name: John Winn

    Age: 31

    Household Members:

    Name Age

    John Winn 31 Head of family Joiner in HM Dockyard b Pontefract, Yorkshire

    Sarah Winn 27 b Darlington, Yorkshire

    Sarah A Winn 3 b Woolwich, Kent

    Mary Winn 1 b Woolwich, Kent

    Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1588; Folio: 224; Page: 40; GSU roll: 174825.



    1861 England Census for 19 Upper Hardshott, Woolwich Dockyard, Kent

    Name: William S Winn

    Age: 16

    Household Members:

    Name Age

    John Winn 41 Head of family Joiner in HM Dockyard b Pontefract, Yorkshire

    Sarah Winn 38 Wife b Darlington, Yorkshire

    William T Winn 16 Pupil Teacher b Knottingley, Yorks

    Sarah A Winn 13 b Woolwich, Kent

    Mary Winn 11 Scholar b Woolwich, Kent

    John J Winn 9 Scholar b Woolwich, Kent

    Joseph Winn 6 Scholar b Woolwich, Kent

    Elizabeth Winn 5 Scholar b Woolwich, Kent

    Jane Winn 2 b Woolwich, Kent

    Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 405; Folio: 37; Page: 25; GSU roll: 542632.



    Births Mar 1846

    PRATT Mary Ann Thirsk 24 527



    Thirsk Registration District covers Knayton, Yorkshire



    1871 England Census for the National School, Stoke Poges, Buckinghamshire

    Name: William T Wynn

    Age: 26

    Household Members:

    Name Age

    William T Wynn 26 Head of family Certified Schoolmaster b Knottingley, Yorks

    Mary Ann Wynn 25 b Knapton, York

    Margaret E Wynn 2 b Stoke Poges, Buckinghamshire

    Anna M F Wynn 9 months b Stoke Poges, Buckinghamshire

    Margaret Pluck 11 Servant & Scholar b Sherbourn, County Durham

    Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 1402; Folio: 144; Page: 21; GSU roll: 828507.

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    This appears to be the origin of the name Rowland in the family



    IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0

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    Search Results

    Rowland Winn

    Event(s):

    Birth: About 1759 Of, Ledsham, Yorkshire, England

    Marriages:

    Spouse: Mary Thompson

    Marriage: 08 or 03 JUN 1784

    Source Information:

    Film Number: 449742 Page Number: 0099 Reference number: 16182



    IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0

    British Isles

    Search Results

    GERVASE WINN

    Event(s):

    Christening: 05 OCT 1792 Ledsham, Yorkshire, England

    Parents:

    Father: ROWLAND WINN

    Source Information:

    Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

    P004151 1539 - 1812 0496809 Film 0471850 Film

    P004151 1539 - 1812 0496809 Film NONE

    P004151 1539 - 1812 0496809 Film NONE

    P004151 1539 - 1812 0496809 Film NONE Sheet: 00



    1841 England Census for East Hardwick, Pontefract, Yorkshire

    Name: Jarvis Winn

    Age: 45

    Household Members: All born in County of Yorkshire

    Name Age

    Jarvis Winn 45 Brickmaker

    Mary Winn 45

    Jarvis Winn 15

    Joseph Winn 8

    Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 1310; Book: 9; Civil Parish: Pontefract; County: Yorkshire; Enumeration District: 15A; Folio: 3; Page: 2; Line: 9; GSU roll: 464267.



    This could possibly John and Sarah's marriage



    Marriages Mar 1845

    ELLIS Sarah Ripon 23 461

    WINN John Ripon 23 461



    No sign of William Turner Wynn's birth in 1844



    1851 England Census for East Hardwick, Pontefract, Yorkshire

    Name: William Sarna Winn [Turner on image]

    Age: 6

    Household Members:

    Name Age

    Jarvis Winn 58 Head of family Farmer b Fairburn, Yorkshire

    Mary Ann Winn 56 b Badsworth, Yorkshire

    Ann Winn 31 b Normanton, Yorkshire

    Joseph Winn 18 Labourer Brickmaker b East Hardwick, Yorkshire

    William Sarna Winn 6 Grandson Scholar b Knottingley, Yorks

    Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2330; Folio: 29; Page: 8; GSU roll: 87572.



    Should keep you busy for a while DD

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    Thanks everso much you're a star, my husband and his mum can start to put this together tomorrow, before she flies back to Spain on Thursday.

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    If I can help further, let me know

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    Births Dec 1852

    PAINTER Elizabeth Mary Ann Malmesbury 5a 32



    The purchase of the above Birth Certificate will pinpoint which Elizabeth in Hankerton is the right one.



    Edward Ellis birth is not certain



    Marriages Sep 1868

    Ellis Edward Dartford 2a 513

    Painter Elizabeth Mary A Dartford 2a 513



    Births Jun 1880

    ELLIS Mary Jane Dartford 2a 437





    1881 England Census for 16 Victoria Street, Belvedere, Erith, Kent

    Name: Elizth. Ellis

    Age: 29

    Household Members:

    Name Age

    Edward Ellis 36 Head of family Bricklayers Labourer b Old Ripley, Kent

    Elizth. Ellis 29 Wife Laundress b Hankerton, Wiltshire

    Anne Ellis 7 Scholar b Belvedere, Kent

    Rossia Ellis 4 b Belvedere, Kent

    Amy Ellis 2 b Belvedere, Kent

    Mary Ellis 10 Mo b Belvedere, Kent

    Emily Green 14 Domestic Servant b Woolwich, Kent

    Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 864; Folio: 40; Page: 22; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341205.



    1891 England Census for 45 Abbey Mount, Erith, Kent

    Name: Mary Ellis

    Age: 10

    Household Members:

    Name Age

    Edward Ellis 45 Head of family General Labourer b Erith, Kent

    Elizabeth Ellis 38 b Erith, Kent

    Annie Ellis 17 General Domestic Servant b Erith, Kent

    Rosetta Ellis 15 b Erith, Kent

    Amy Ellis 12 Scholar b Erith, Kent

    Mary Ellis 10 b Erith, Kent

    William Ellis 5 b Erith, Kent

    Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 638; Folio 76; Page 14; GSU roll: 6095748.



    Marriages Dec 1899

    Ellis Mary Jane Dartford 2a 1051

    Wynn Rowland Turner J Dartford 2a 1051



    I am unable to find Rowland in the 1901 Census, or either of them in the 1911 census!!



    Mary Jane very obligingly stays with her parents in 1901



    1901 England Census for Raglan Road, Erith, Kent

    Name: Mary J Wynn

    [Mary J Ellis]

    Age: 20

    Household Members:

    Name Age

    Edward Ellis 45 Head of family General Labourer b Bexley, Kent

    Elizbth M A Ellis 48 b Hankerton, Wiltshire

    Amy Louisa Ellis 22 b Belvedere, Kent

    Willm F Ellis 15 General Labourer Cable Works b Belvedere, Kent

    Mary J Wynn 20 Dau Mar b Belvedere, Kent

    Sybil M E Wynn 4 months b Belvedere, Kent

    Andrew B Watkins 19 Boarder Plumbers Labourer b Brentwood, Essex

    Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 701; Folio: 8; Page: 8.

 

 

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