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    Default Joseph Trattle.. Murdered

    Can anyone help please.. I am helping a freind search for some information about their ancestor a Joseph Trattle.. Below I have attatched the 1901 Census for him with his wife Sarah Ann Trattle Nee Phillips.. Joseph Trattle died in 1901 and from what I have been told he was murdered.. Just wondering if there would be anything in writing about Joseph and his death...Sarah his wife later went on to marry a Walter Boiling.. No information required there..





    1901 England Census

    about Sarah Trattle






    Name:Sarah TrattleAge:25 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1876Relation:Wife Spouse's Name:JosephGender:FemaleWhere born:St George in The East, London, EnglandCivil parish:Mile End Old Town Ecclesiastical parish:St Dunstan Stepney County/Island:London Country:England Street Address:



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    Registration district:Mile End Old Town Sub-registration district:Mile End, Old Town, Eastern ED, institution, or vessel:12 Neighbors: Household schedule number:26Household Members:NameAgeJoseph Trattle25 Sarah Trattle25 Emily Trattle2 Mary Cochrane14





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    Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 334; Folio: 43; Page: 6.













    Just adding a small part of the email from my friend regarding Joseph Trattle.. Might help..





    Marion





    Just as a matter of fact a story I remember my Mum telling my Sister and

    I, was about Emmy Trattles husband, who if the story is right got himself

    murdered, evidently he went to the races and by all accounts had a huge

    win on the horses he then had too much to drink, got in with the wrong

    crowd and was drowned in the Surpantyne.There was no money found on the

    body and although there was no proof, there was however a strong belief he

    was done in as they say.
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    Moreton from Abingdon-Morton from Westham-Davies from ILLOGAN & Westham-Whitehead from Falkirk ,Ireland & Woolwich-Plant from Watermans Field Woolwich,Litchfield ,Ireland, The cape Of Good Hope-Prisk from St Hilary & Marazion-Levitt from Fleet Lincs & Islington-Sturgeon from Suffolk-McClelland from Antrim & Aldershot-Whittlesea from Cambridgeshire-Rowe from Marazion-Head from Woolwich--Carr from St Giles Oxfordshire-Ackley from Loughborough

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    Default Re: Joseph Trattle.. Murdered

    Hi Marion,



    Why not get your friend to join AA . It is free.

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    Default Re: Joseph Trattle.. Murdered

    Hi Star,

    How are you? My friend who lives in NZ does not have a home computer and visits the Library once every two weeks to send emails and so on..I have always told my friends what a great site AA is and have asked many to join..I do have a few family members who joined and such as Lincs Lady you see them on the boards from time to time..

    OK must go as its my day off from work..Housework to do







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    Moreton from Abingdon-Morton from Westham-Davies from ILLOGAN & Westham-Whitehead from Falkirk ,Ireland & Woolwich-Plant from Watermans Field Woolwich,Litchfield ,Ireland, The cape Of Good Hope-Prisk from St Hilary & Marazion-Levitt from Fleet Lincs & Islington-Sturgeon from Suffolk-McClelland from Antrim & Aldershot-Whittlesea from Cambridgeshire-Rowe from Marazion-Head from Woolwich--Carr from St Giles Oxfordshire-Ackley from Loughborough

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    Default Re: Joseph Trattle.. Murdered

    Oh well, it was worth a try. I take it they don't have genealogy records or access to old English papers there. I remember another member saying about someone that died in the river Serpentine. I hope someone manages to help. I have come across people that drowned in parish records but not in the deatail you are after. Ps, there is a river serpentine in NZ.

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    Default Re: Joseph Trattle.. Murdered

    Hi Star.. My friends Ancestors all came from Mile End in London..The Trattle fellow would have died or been Murdered in England 1901..The friend I am helping was born in London but went to live in NZ as a young man.. I do hope someone can help..



    Have a nice evening.. Must be your bed time soon.







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    Census information Crown Copyright, in care of TNA.


    Moreton from Abingdon-Morton from Westham-Davies from ILLOGAN & Westham-Whitehead from Falkirk ,Ireland & Woolwich-Plant from Watermans Field Woolwich,Litchfield ,Ireland, The cape Of Good Hope-Prisk from St Hilary & Marazion-Levitt from Fleet Lincs & Islington-Sturgeon from Suffolk-McClelland from Antrim & Aldershot-Whittlesea from Cambridgeshire-Rowe from Marazion-Head from Woolwich--Carr from St Giles Oxfordshire-Ackley from Loughborough

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    Default Re: Joseph Trattle.. Murdered

    The best result would be the local newspaper of that time they even pulbished the inquests , if any help

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    Thanks Chris.. I think this needs some investigating.. All feed back helps.







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    Census information Crown Copyright, in care of TNA.


    Moreton from Abingdon-Morton from Westham-Davies from ILLOGAN & Westham-Whitehead from Falkirk ,Ireland & Woolwich-Plant from Watermans Field Woolwich,Litchfield ,Ireland, The cape Of Good Hope-Prisk from St Hilary & Marazion-Levitt from Fleet Lincs & Islington-Sturgeon from Suffolk-McClelland from Antrim & Aldershot-Whittlesea from Cambridgeshire-Rowe from Marazion-Head from Woolwich--Carr from St Giles Oxfordshire-Ackley from Loughborough

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    Default Re: Joseph Trattle.. Murdered

    Hi,



    Does your friend have his death certificate? If so, what is stated as cause of death?

    If not, here ia a possible index

    Name:Joseph TrattleEstimated Birth Year:abt 1875Year of Registration:1901Quarter of Registration:Apr-May-JunAge at Death:26District:WindsorCounty:Berkshire, SurreyVolume:2cPage:267

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    Default Re: Joseph Trattle.. Murdered

    Thanks for your reply mrsp2008.. Yes I did find this same death but was thrown as the Serpentine is in Hyde Park London.





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    Census information Crown Copyright, in care of TNA.


    Moreton from Abingdon-Morton from Westham-Davies from ILLOGAN & Westham-Whitehead from Falkirk ,Ireland & Woolwich-Plant from Watermans Field Woolwich,Litchfield ,Ireland, The cape Of Good Hope-Prisk from St Hilary & Marazion-Levitt from Fleet Lincs & Islington-Sturgeon from Suffolk-McClelland from Antrim & Aldershot-Whittlesea from Cambridgeshire-Rowe from Marazion-Head from Woolwich--Carr from St Giles Oxfordshire-Ackley from Loughborough

 

 

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