Thread: Death Cert Question for c.1883

Hi All,



I'm haviing a LOT of problem trying to pin down 1 of 4 possible Hannah's that married John Matthews c.1830. Can someone tell me please, would a death cert for 1883 include a womans MAIDEN name?



Thanks



M

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Hello,

No, an English death cert of that time does not usually give a wife's maiden name. It may say "wife of", "widow of" but that is all.

Yours

Victoria

Thanks Victoria, stinks doesn't it. As if a WOMAN is no no consequence - **owned** by a man... NOT!!



M

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[quote name='Victoria']Hello,

No, an English death cert of that time does not usually give a wife's maiden name. It may say "wife of", "widow of" but that is all.

Yours

Victoria[/quote]

Unfortunately, at that time in history women WERE owned completely by fathers, husbands, and brothers. In certain circumstances, women still don't have the same rights as men.



Victoria

and even today you don't have mothers on marriage certs (except my gt grandmother Ruth's mother was, because Ruth was illegit and they put her mother's name)

I suppose you could try to eliminate the other possibles?

Thanks Jeuel for you answer.

This is my original thread:



http://www.ancestryaid.co.uk/boards/...ut-hannah.html



If you look at post #5, you'll see the probs I'm having! That's why I had the not-so-bright idea of asking whether a death cert stated a married womans MAIDEN name, then I could disregard the other 3 possible Hannas.



No one makes this easy, do they....



M

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[quote name='Jeuel']and even today you don't have mothers on marriage certs (except my gt grandmother Ruth's mother was, because Ruth was illegit and they put her mother's name)[/quote]

I may be being a bit dim, but surely if you get Maria (b 1852) birth cert then that would give Hannah's maiden name. It'll cost £7 but cheaper than going to a records office, unless you live next to it!



As it happens I also have Matthews in my tree from Warwickshire/Oxfordshire border. No links with yours as far as I can see - but v. glad that my gt x 2 grandfather Emmets Matthews had an unusual name and it was used as 2nd name for many of his grandchildren and great grandchildren! It also helped me find the right Richard Matthews married to Hannah (yes there were two at the same time) because my Richard's mother was Anne Emmets before she married.



No, its not always easy!

I was under the impression Jeuel, that the mothers maiden name wasn't state don the birth cert until early 20th century? Or am I confused on that bit?



Stop showing off re. the unusual names bit and how much easier it was for you....DDD



Worth a try though re. cert - will go down that route me thinks!!



Cheers



M

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[quote name='Jeuel']and even today you don't have mothers on marriage certs (except my gt grandmother Ruth's mother was, because Ruth was illegit and they put her mother's name)[/quote]



Hi,

Very, very occasionally a mother's name is in the father's column. I have 2 such. One in the 20th century when as you say, the bride was illeg, and another in the late 19th cent when the groom's widowed mother's name was down as father. She, however, was of Canadian extraction, and from what I can gather from records, was a feisty woman, so probably insisted.



Victoria