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    Default Dear 1911 Census

    Hi,

    Trying to identify the parents of gt/g/mother.

    Violet Dorothy Dear b May 4 1909 in Hitchin Herts.

    Father was Albert or Arthur Dear, Mother Nellie Cox, no dates for either.

    Margaret b1908

    Later children born after 1911 Dorothy, Helena, Joan.

    Not sure about Thomas and a Rawley/Riley.

    Anything on the 1911 would be good, anything earlier for the parents marriage and possibly 1881 would be fantastic.

    Best regards,

    Graham.

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    Default Re: Dear 1911 Census

    Graham ..



    Here's a start



    Births Jun 1909

    DEAR Violet Dorothy

    Hitchin 3a 820



    With this cert you would have the full names of both parents.



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    Default Re: Dear 1911 Census

    Below is Violets birth reg. you can use this to get the cert and find the parents. I could not find a marriage between a Dear and Cox. You need know if it was Albert or Arthur



    England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915

    Name: Violet Dorothy Dear

    Year of Registration: 1909

    Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun

    District: Hitchin

    County: Bedfordshire, Hertfordshire

    Volume: 3a

    Page: 820

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    Default Re: Dear 1911 Census

    There was this one but not in Hitchin and Tom Dear



    Tom Dear & Eleanor Cox 1903 Edmonton Essex, Hertfordshire, Middlesex

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    Default Re: Dear 1911 Census

    1911 index has

    DEAR VOILET F1909 2 Hitchin Hertfordshire



    There are 73 people surname Dear living in Hitchin in 1911. No Eleanor or Nellies, Alfred or Arthurs.



    I would strongly recommend that you get Violet's birth cert which will give you her parents names and her father's occupation which will help to find them and/or buy some payperview credits to see Violet's household in 1911.



    The transcript will tell you how long her parents were married which would help you trace the marriage, as well as listing any siblings.



    BTW I live in Hitchin so if I can help further let me know.

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    Default Re: Dear 1911 Census

    this appears to be the household with violet



    DEAR ERNEST M 1906 5 Hitchin Hertfordshire

    DEAR GEORGE M 1910 4 months Hitchin Hertfordshire

    DEAR TOM M 1904 7 Hitchin Hertfordshire DEARMARGESTF19083HitchinHertfordshire

    DEARTOM M 188130HitchinHertfordshire

    DEARHELENA F 188328HitchinHertfordshire



    which would seem to fit in with the tom - helena marriage. helen could easily be nelly but tom ??
    Census information Crown Copyright, in care of TNA

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    Default Re: Dear 1911 Census

    This is the same Thomas just after birth on 1881 census. I see there is an Albert with the family:



    Thomas DEAR Head M 28 Hitchin, Hertford, Labr Railway

    Matilda DEAR Wife M 28 Hitchin, Hertford, Straw Plaiter

    George DEAR Son 9 Hitchin, Hertford, Scholar

    Albert DEAR Son 7 Hitchin, Hertford, Scholar

    Annie DEAR Daur 5 Hitchin, Hertford, Scholar

    Emma DEAR Daur 2 Hitchin, Hertford

    >>>Thomas DEAR Son 1 m Hitchin, Hertford



    Source Information:Dwelling St Andrews St Hitchin, Hertford

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    Default Re: Dear 1911 Census

    baptism for Albert Dear on batch C072483

    27 MAY 1874 Hitchin, Hertford

    parents: Thomas & Matilda



    same batch also has baptism for George Alfred Dear on 21 FEB 1872 Hitchin, Hertfordsame parents

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    Default Re: Dear 1911 Census

    until you get a certificate and confirm the parentage of violet this is all supposition as the names dont fit with the names of parents you thought. once you have the first parentage confirmed it will be quite easy as you can see to trace further back.
    Census information Crown Copyright, in care of TNA

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    Default Re: Dear 1911 Census

    Hi all,

    the clincher for this trace was the fact that JEUEL had written Violet spelt wrong (Voilet) and WELSHLADY had Margaret spelt wrong (Margest).

    Knowing these were good names is why they wouldn't show up on the searches.

    As for Albert/Arthur actually Tom and Helena being Nellie:- No one said it was going to be easy!

    Kind regards,

    Graham.

 

 

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