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    Default Trying to find OVERALLs

    I've got a few bits of information on the family I'm looking for, but not much.



    The father is George OVERALL. He's a gardener in 1883.

    Daughter Elizabeth, b. ~1855 Hampton, Middx m. Richard HOWARD 1875

    Daughter Sarah, b. ~1860-1864 Addlestone, Surrey m. Joseph Henry HIGGINS 1883



    I've found Richard HOWARD with Elizabeth on the 1881 census, and I have Sarah on the 1891 and 1901. I have the marriage certificate for Sarah.



    I was thinking that if I could find George on a census somewhere, I'd hopefully get a wife's name, which would then help me track down a birth for Sarah (or Elizabeth). No luck so far, though.



    If anyone can find any clues at all, or come up with another approach, I'd be very grateful.

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    Default Re: Trying to find OVERALLs

    Is this them Chris? George was a gardener on both census.



    1871.



    Name: Elizabeth Overall Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: George Mother's Name: Amelia Gender: Female Where born: Hampton Wick, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Hampton Wick Ecclesiastical parish: St John County/Island: Middlesex Country: England



    George Overall 40 Amelia Overall 38 Elizabeth Overall 18 Caroline Overall 16 Sarah Overall 13 Ann Overall 9 Mary Overall 7 Jane Overall 5 George Overall 3 Charles Overall 6 weeks

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    1861. If these censuses are your family, Sarah is a little older than you thought.



    Name: Elizabeth Overall Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: George Mother's Name: Amelia Gender: Female Where born: Hampton Wick, Middlesex, England



    Civil Parish: Hampton Wick County/Island: Middlesex Country: England



    George Overall 30 Amelia Overall 27 Elizabeth Overall 8 Caroline Overall 6 Sarah Overall 3 Overall under 1 Mo




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    Default Re: Trying to find OVERALLs

    This marriage has an Amelia Chitts on the same page.



    Name: George Overall Year of Registration: 1853 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Kingston County: Middlesex, Surrey Volume: 2a Page: 239

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    Default Re: Trying to find OVERALLs

    Sarah's birth ?



    Name: Sarah Overall Year of Registration: 1858 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Kingston County: Middlesex, Surrey Volume: 2a Page: 197

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    Default Re: Trying to find OVERALLs

    [quote name='slizzy']Is this them Chris?[/quote]



    Those do sound plausible. Sarah's husband was born ~1860, so maybe they didn't like that she was older than him. On the marriage certificate, she'd dropped 2 years, and by the 1891 census, she'd lost another 4. Doesn't sound impossible...

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    Post George Overall 1831..married Amelia chitts b.1834. marriage 1853.

    Quote Originally Posted by slizzy View Post
    Is this them Chris? George was a gardener on both census.



    1871.



    Name: Elizabeth Overall Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: George Mother's Name: Amelia Gender: Female Where born: Hampton Wick, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Hampton Wick Ecclesiastical parish: St John County/Island: Middlesex Country: England



    George Overall 40 Amelia Overall 38 Elizabeth Overall 18 Caroline Overall 16 Sarah Overall 13 Ann Overall 9 Mary Overall 7 Jane Overall 5 George Overall 3 Charles Overall 6 weeks

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



    1861. If these censuses are your family, Sarah is a little older than you thought.



    Name: Elizabeth Overall Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: George Mother's Name: Amelia Gender: Female Where born: Hampton Wick, Middlesex, England



    Civil Parish: Hampton Wick County/Island: Middlesex Country: England



    George Overall 30 Amelia Overall 27 Elizabeth Overall 8 Caroline Overall 6 Sarah Overall 3 Overall under 1 Mo

    .................................................. .................................................. ......
    hi, Charles Overall is my great granddad,there was one more child born after charles, James b.1873.
    Apparently George died and Amelia remarried William Hutchins. Charles and james then went under Hutchins and the others remained Overalls, i have got (my great,great grandad ) Georges parents as Jesse Overall and Sarah Scales, not definate though, i would love hearing from you as we are distantly related, i don,t have much on the overalls and history, it,s my fathers side and he passed early, any info would be appreciated.... cheers Treena


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    Post George Overall 1831..married Amelia chitts b.1834. marriage 1853.

    >[/QUOTE]hi, Charles Overall is my great granddad,there was one more child born after charles, James b.1873.<BR>Apparently George died and Amelia remarried William Hutchins. Charles and james then went under Hutchins and the others remained Overalls, i have got (my great,great grandad )&nbsp;Georges parents as Jesse Overall and Sarah Scales, not definate though, i would love hearing from anyone that is distantly related, i don,t have much on the overalls and history, it,s my fathers side and he passed early, any info would be appreciated.... cheers Treena<A href="http://content.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?htx=view&amp;r=5538&amp;dbid=7619&amp;iid=MD XRG10_865_866-0292&amp;fn=Elizabeth&amp;ln=Overall&amp;st=r&amp; ssrc=&amp;pid=2693756" target=_blank><BR><BR></A>
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    On the Overall family........ Any information would be appreciated
    Last edited by TREENA; 28-10-2011 at 05:58 AM.

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    Post George Overall 1831 /Amelia Chitts / William Hutchins families.Hampton,england

    Any information will be appreciated.

 

 

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