Thread: thomas simmons kent/essex

hi

i am new to this , and i am having trouble tracking my grandfather i know he lived in kent for a while then essex where he married my gran elsie everard . he was in the first world war , and was wounded . he died in 1973 in ellesmere port cheshire . i have checked all avenues , if anybody can help please

Hi Pete,



We'll start with his death record which gives DOB. This looks the most likely from the indexes.



Thomas Jordan D Simmons. Registered 1st qrt 1973 Wirral'.



DOB 27th July, 1895.



Do you think it's him?

And a birth for the above Thomas.



Name: Thomas Jordan G Simmons Year of Registration: 1895 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Eastry County: Kent Volume: 2a Page: 966



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Your grandparents marriage.



Marriages Jun 1916 (Everard) Elsie O Simmons Orsett 4a1131

Simmons Thomas J D (Everard) Orsett 4a1131

1901 Census. All born Woodnesborough. Richard Ovenden is Thomas snr's stepson.



Name: Thos J Simmons Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896 Relation: Son Father's Name: Thos Mother's Name: Harriett R Gender: Male Where born: Woodnesborough, Kent, England



Civil Parish: Woodnesborough Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Farms Woodnesborough County/Island: Kent Country: England Registration district: Eastry Sub registration district: Sandwich



Thos Simmons 36 Harriett R Simmons 45 Thos J Simmons 5 Richard Ovenden 16

There's this marriage for a Thomas Simmons - on same page is Harriet Rebecca Ovenden.



Marriages Dec 1892 ..........ref Eastry 2a1910

1891 Census. Richard Ovenden shows up again - he's enumerated as a visitor. All born Woodnesborough except Jordan who was born Staple Kent.



Name: Thomas Simmons Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865 Relation: Son Father's Name: Jordan Mother's Name: Sarah A Gender: Male Where born: Woodnesborough, Kent, England



Civil Parish: Woodnesborough Ecclesiastical parish: Woodnesborough Town: Marshborough County/Island: Kent Country: England Registration district: Eastry Sub registration district: Sandwich

Jordan Simmons 59 Sarah A Simmons 46 Thomas Simmons 26 Henry Simmons 14 Emma Simmons 11 Richard D Ovenden 6



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Just noticed ...........this family were living next door.



Name: Harriet Ovenden Age: 36 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Elias Gender: Female Where born: Woodnesborough, Kent, England



Civil Parish: Woodnesborough Ecclesiastical parish: Woodnesborough Town: Marshborough County/Island: Kent Country: England



Elias Ovenden 37 Harriet Ovenden 36 William H Ovenden 18 Albert C Ovenden 17 Emily J Ovenden 12 Robert H Ovenden 7



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Elias' death



Deaths Jun 1891



Ovenden Elias 37 Eastry 2a616



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Marriages Mar 1872



Drayson Harriet Rebekah Eastry 2a1015



Knott Richard Eastry 2a1015



MILLER Louisa Eastry 2a1015



OVENDEN Elias Eastry 2a1015

Moving back to the Simmons'



1881. Sarah Dilnot enumerated as 'mother' it doesn't say whose mother.



Name: Thomas Simmons Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866 Relation: Son Father's Name: Jordan Mother's Name: Sarah A. Gender: Male Where born: Woodnesborough, Kent, England



Civil Parish: Woodnesborough County/Island: Kent Country: England



Street address: Dronless Drove

Occupation: Ag. Lab.



Registration district: Eastry Sub registration district: Sandwich



Jordan Simmons 40 Sarah A. Simmons 37 Thomas Simmons 15 Frederick Simmons 13 Elizabeth Simmons 10 William Simmons 7 Henry Simmons 4 Emma Simmons 1 Sarah Dilnot 80



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Interestingly living next door is this family.



Name: John Dilnot Smith Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Annie Gender: Male Where born: Woodnesborough, Kent, England



Civil Parish: Woodnesborough County/Island: Kent Country: England



Street address: Dronless Drove Condition as to marriage: MarriedOccupation: Wheeler



Registration district: Eastry Sub registration district: Sandwich

John Dilnot Smith 30 Annie Smith 27 Annie D. Smith 3 Isabel D. Smith 1 Ellen D. Smith Mary A. Matholi 40 Harriet D. Smith 28

1871. An Ellenor Dilnot aged 70 is living next door???????



Name: Thomas Simmons Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866 Relation: Son Father's Name: Jordan Mother's Name: Sarah A Gender: Male Where born: Woodnesborough, Kent, England Civil Parish: Woodnesborough Ecclesiastical parish: Canterbury and Sandwich Town: Woodnesborough County/Island: Kent Country: England



Jordan Simmons 30 Sarah A Simmons 27 Alfred Simmons 7 Thomas Simmons 5 Frederick Simmons 3 Elizabeth A Simmons 6 months

A marriage for Jordan and Sarah. It would appear Ellenor/Sarah Dilnot was Sarah's mother.



Marriages Dec 1863



Dilmot Sarah Ann Eastry 2a1369

Harvey Margaret Eastry 2a1369

Simmons Jordan Eastry 2a1369

Worsfold Peter Eastry 2a1369

1851. Jordan snr born Milton, Ann Wingham, all children Staple.



Name: Jordan Simmons Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relation: Son Father's Name: Jordan Mother's Name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: Staple, Kent, England



Civil Parish: Staple Ecclesiastical parish: Bridge and Canterbury County/Island: Kent Country: England



Jordan Simmons 42 Ann Simmons 35 Ellen Simmons 18 Frank Simmons 16 George Simmons 13 Jordan Simmons 10 Alfred Simmons 8 John Simmons 2