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    Please help! I am looking for a marriage and/or marriage licence for James Thomas BEDBOROUGH c1805-20 (most likely c1807-12). This was probably in London, but he had property in Windsor.

    Grateful for any info., thanks.

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    Hi Jacobina,

    Is there any chance you know who he married??



    I have found one but it gives no first name and who they married...





    Pallot's Marriage Index for England: 1780 - 1837

    about Bedborough Bedborough





    Name:Bedborough BedboroughMarriage Date:1788-1809PARISH:St. George Hanover Square









    Have you found them on later Census?







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    Hi Lady Marion,



    Many thanks for your help. James Thomas Bedborough's wife was Sarah, her surname unknown as yet.



    He was born 1787, so marriage is unlikely before 1806 and first known child was born in 1810.



    Do you have any access to the detail in Pallot's, or what would you advise, please?



    Jacobina



    PS For anyone else reading this, I would be grateful for any info on Bedborough/Bedbrough/Bedberry and variants of the London area, Hampton or Windsor, particularly any earlier leads on the family, as they are very hard to keep track of. Thanks!

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    [quote name='Jacobina']Hi Lady Marion,



    Many thanks for your help. James Thomas Bedborough's wife was Sarah, her surname unknown as yet.



    He was born 1787, so marriage is unlikely before 1806 and first known child was born in 1810.



    Do you have any access to the detail in Pallot's, or what would you advise, please?



    Jacobina



    PS For anyone else reading this, I would be grateful for any info on Bedborough/Bedbrough/Bedberry and variants of the London area, Hampton or Windsor, particularly any earlier leads on the family, as they are very hard to keep track of. Thanks![/quote]







    Do you know for sure where James was born? I have found a James Thomas Bedborough but born much later about 1853 Windsor Berkshire..You stated Windsor so do you have your dates correct..?



    In 1861 the above James was living in Clewer, Berkshire, England .





    1881 Old Windsor, Berkshire, England







    1891 Bromley, Kent, England ..We are now going London way







    His Father Was George Bedborough abt 1815

    Windsor, Berkshire, England .









    James Thomas Bedborough above also had a sister named Ellen and a brother named George..











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    Jacobina there are some very early records found in members trees on Ancesrty for Bedborough in Windsor..





    There is Ephraim Bedborough who married a Sarah? Their son was William Bedborough born abt 1786 who married Elizabeth Gooding.. Williams other siblings were born in Berkshire but different place names.. I could go on forever.. I will wait to hear back from you Jacobina.





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    Hi Marion,



    Thanks once again for your help.



    As explained, James Thomas Bedborough was born in 1787, baptised in London, although main family base was Windsor and probably also Hampton at an earlier stage.



    Some feelers I have put out in the meantime suggest that a James Bedborough and Sarah Wise married at St George Hanover Square but, frustratingly, still no date found.



    The later family members you are kindly picking up are descendants, plus some of another family also being tracked who were living nearby.

    (The Ephraim Bedborough line appears to have a probable earlier link and I am tracing this for a friend, but have not yet been able to connect the the line to JTB).



    Best wishes, Jacobina

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    Hello, I've come across James Bedborough on a couple of sites whilst looking for relatives in Windsor. He seems to have been quite a man! He was a wealthy builder, Windsor Mayor around 1846, a dozen or so children, his son was also Mayor in his time, did considerable good things for the town and wasn't afraid to speak up for his beliefs at Council meetings - and elsewhere I imagine! The local paper at the time viewed him with respect, so he must have been on the side of the angels! I believe he went into retail with royal patronage on Castle Hill, opposite the castle, but don't know what line it was. The sites I've been looking at probably won't help with marriage certificates and formal things like that, you'll need to go to Births, Deaths and Marriages sites for that. Some are free in part if they fall within the time you want. Don't know if this will help, but I found him mentioned on the "Royal Windsor Forum" website - on the part that deals with history; and also on a site that gives transcripts of Windsor and Eton Express - which in fact I linked to from the Windsor forum. Actually, if you posted on there asking for info, you might get a good answer or two; you might have to wait for a while, the administrator, "thamesweb" should be back in a couple of weeks, and he'll be most helpful - and interested in what you know about Mr. Bedborough too. So, in fact, should I be. He sounds an interesting man! This is the newspaper website anyway:



    http://freepages.genealog...x/Dates.html#WindsorEton



    You can do a surname search on this site to save wading through all the stuff, and the relevant transcripts will turn up. They make interesting reading, and really show what kind of man your ancestor was! Happy hunting!!



    ps. my user name is actually the name of the terrace in Windsor I'm hoping to find the builder for, Grosvenor Terrace; it may well be your Mr. Bedborough, but can't prove it at the moment. If you find he did build it (it may have been called Victoria Cottages then, I'd be delighted to know!

    It was (now demolished) adjacent to Una Terrace and Lydia Cottages - I'm wondering whether these are names you've come across in your Bedborough search, because builders often used family names for their developments. Fingers crossed!!

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    Thanks for this, Grosvenor. If I happen to discover that JTB built the terrace, I will certainly let you know. He isn't my own ancestor - I'm just helping some friends with their research.



    Yes, he was an important man locally and was certainly involved with numerous building projects in the Windsor area and further afield



    Will have a look at the website when I can get onto it, but it's inaccessible at present.



    Marion, I did find the marriage in St George Hanover Square, thanks, which was to Sarah Wild, not Wise.

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    Thanks for the reply! Tell your friends that the Bedboroughs are often mentioned in the transcribed archives of the Windsor Express (later the W and Eton E) up to 1846ish if I remember, if they can be bothered to skim through it all! There seems to be a real friction between him (and his friends, in particular Darville who was in retail and my mother worked for him) and people who were against him for some reason. They seem to have frequently blocked him and his endeavours, but whether this was for some personal reason I haven't yet discovered. I'm working through these transcripts for my own research and it was because of all this antagonism that I noticed - and became interested in your (their) Mr. Bedborough! He seems to have triumphed because he eventually became Mayor (having been blocked previously) and gave the land and built Holy Trinity Church, meeting with Prince Albert at the foundation stone laying - amongst other things. If I remember his son (reversed christian names) later became Mayor also, and the family also went into retail, as I said.



    If you/they know all this already I won't bother you with more - but I'm going through the transcripts myself and I can copy/paste into a document which I can let your friends have if they're interested. If they want to know and understand about the Windsor life (and Slough, where he also built - to preserve a good aspect of Windsor when coming from Slough station, bless him!) he lived, I'd recommend them to read the transcripts not directly connected with him - it gives you a real flavour of life back then - not all savoury! However, that's a lotttt of reading, if you only want the bare bones. If on the other hand, there's something specific they want to know I can keep an eye out for that - I've got to read it all anyway. If he married in Hanover Square the marriage may not be mentioned - don't know yet when his Windsor life began.



    Best wishes, Hazel

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    Thanks again, Hazel, and for your kind offer. He certainly was involved in a few disputes! Although this source has been partly explored, at least, I am not sure precisely how much my friends know of JTB’s life and achievements, although they have done some work on him. However, you are very kind and, if you are really interested in researching for yourself, I would love a copy of your findings, although please don’t do any work which goes far beyond your own interests. In return, I hope to be able to give you some more info on him at a later stage.



    James Thomas Bedborough’s father was Thomas and his grandfather Robert (anything at all that you happen to turn up on them or their siblings would be welcomed). They are mentioned in the Hall Book of Windsor from the 1730s as stonemasons, and JTB followed his predecessors as an apprentice stonemason at Windsor. The Bedboroughs appear to have worked for the Crown in Windsor and elsewhere back to at least the reign of Charles II, although we haven’t yet made the connections between them all.



    I am told that no trace has yet been found of JTB building the terraces you mention, but that this info could appear.



    By the way, you may need to try the numerous spelling variants in your research, as they can be easily missed in an index: Bedborough/Bedbrough/Bedberry/Bedbury/Bedberough/Bedborrow etc.



    I look forward to hearing how you progress!



    Jacobina

 

 

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