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    Default need help tracing gater family from stoke on trent

    My great grandmother surname Gater lived in sun street stoke on trent.she had many children and was poor.she killed herself and her baby in a canal near her home.my grandad who was with her and the baby escaped but remembers only the house they was living at the time of her suicide (sun street hanley stoke on trent) as listed above.any help be very gratefull,my grandad and is siblings where but in to childrens home my grandad henry gater was adopted by elizabeth sutton

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    Default Re: need help tracing gater family from stoke on trent

    there are quite a few gator families around the area. can you give some years to narrow down the search and any other info you have eg any other first names of siblings or parents of your grandfather, when did the suicide take place.
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    Default Re: need help tracing gater family from stoke on trent

    [quote name='welshlady']there are quite a few gator families around the area. can you give some years to narrow down the search and any other info you have eg any other first names of siblings or parents of your grandfather, when did the suicide take place.[/quote]

    my grandad henry gater when he was adopted he became henry sutton he was born in april 1921 the suicide of his mother happened between 1922-1932 . when my grandad mother and baby brother or sister died he was put in to penkhull homes a childrens home in stoke on trent where 2 of is brothers died in this home .my grandads dad after this remarried.i just found out my grandads sisters where alive until about 4-6 yrs ago and yet i never met them there names ivy and (anne maybe annie gater.

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    Default Re: need help tracing gater family from stoke on trent

    Thel ocal paper would have covered both the suicide and the inquest. There might be some clues in that.

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    Default Re: need help tracing gater family from stoke on trent

    Hi Welling,



    This looks like Henry Gator's birth registration.




    Name: Henry Gater Mother's Maiden Surname: Johnson Date of Registration: Apr May Jun 1921 Registration district: Stoke T Registration county: Staffordshire Volume Number: 6b Page Number: 373



    As you can see his mother's maiden name was Johnson.



    I searched for Gator/Johnson marriages around the Stoke area 1905 - 1921, there's two.



    1) Dec qrt 1907, Stoke on Trent, James Gator possible brides Ada Brindley or Jane JOHNSON.



    2) Sept qrt 1919, Stoke on Trent, Wilfred Gator to Ada Johnson.

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    Default Re: need help tracing gater family from stoke on trent

    looking for female gater deaths in stoke on trent between 1922 and 1935 (ignoring people under the age of 18 and over the age of 55) only brings up the following names





    Deaths Sep 1923 GATER Gladys 19 Stoke T. 6b 75

    Deaths Sep 1928 Gater Jane 46 Stoke T. 6b 115

    Deaths Sep 1935 Gater Margaret J 19 Stoke T. 6b 151
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    Default Re: need help tracing gater family from stoke on trent

    and in fact if she had many children as per first post that really rules out the two 19 year olds leaving Jane. this would fit in with the jane Johnson/ James Gater marriage that slizzy found
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    Default Re: need help tracing gater family from stoke on trent

    looking back at the gator deaths



    Deaths Sep 1928 Gater Jane 46 Stoke T. 6b115 Gater Reginald 4 Stoke T. 6b115



    could reginald be the baby with her?





    these are gater births with maiden name johnson



    Births Sep 1919 (>99%) Gater Hannah Johnson Stoke T. 6b330 Births Mar 1920 (>99%) Gater Annie Johnson Stoke T. 6b410 Births Mar 1921 (>99%) Gater William Johnson Stoke T. 6b354 Births Jun 1921 (>99%) Gater Henry Johnson Stoke T. 6b373

    Births Sep 1923 (>99%) Gater Reginald Johnson Stoke T. 6b340

    Births Mar 1926 (>99%) Gater Ada Johnson Stoke T 6b256
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    Default Re: need help tracing gater family from stoke on trent

    obviously the two births in 1921 couldnt both be hers so there is another gater family in stoke. in fact there are two more gater births with johnson maiden naem after 1928 when jane gater might have died.



    also there is this james gater death



    Deaths Sep 1923 (>99%) GATER James A 35 Stoke T. 6b94

    possibly the james that married jane johnson



    i am assuming that the father had already died before the suicide as the children were adopted.
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    Default Re: need help tracing gater family from stoke on trent

    Hi Welling,



    Thanks for your message re Henry Gator, unfortunately the birth indexes don't give addresses, to find the address you would have to buy his birth certificate.

 

 

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