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    Dear Listers,

    Most of you may remember me often asking about the HART family, Benjamin and Matilda, both born around 1850. I do have the dates for both.

    Matilda was born 1852 in England. It is her parents I would like to know more about, other than Matilda's birth date all I can add is that his name is Colman Solomon.

    If you can give me any assistance I'd truly appreciate it.

    Best wishes to you and yours, Ray [Melbourne]
    Hart, Button, Sowter, Hoffman, Lintenbrink, Tattersall,

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    Default Re: Colman SOLOMON

    I can't find your Solomons in 1861 and later but I have found this family in 1851



    29 Bow Street, Covent Garden



    Coleman Solomon 25 Fruiterer born Middlesex

    Selina Wife 22 born Rochester, Kent

    Louise daur. 3 born Middlesex



    Could these be yours?

    Emeltee

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    Default Re: Colman SOLOMON

    Emeltree,

    I was tempted to say yes but then remembered the marriage certificate. It says Colmon Solomon was a furniture dealer.

    Thank you away.

    Hawk.
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    Default Re: Colman SOLOMON

    Hi Hawks,



    Sorry, but I'm unable to offer you concrete evidence, however I have a theory to put forward!



    In 1861 we have.



    Name: Matilda Soloman Age: 9 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852 Relation: Granddaughter Gender: Female Where born: Brixton, Surrey, England



    Civil Parish: Lambeth Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary County/Island: Surrey Country: England



    Ralphel Myers/60/head/Auctioneer/Bermondsey

    Elizabeth Myers/62/wife/Whitechapel

    Esther Soloman/16/grandau/Holborn

    Matilda Soloman/9/grandau/Brixton



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    And a possible marriage.



    Marriages Jun 1850

    Jacobs Abraham London 2223

    Levy Esther London 2223

    Myers Amelia London 2223

    Simmons Sarah London 2223

    Solomon Coleman London 2223

    Solomons James London 2223

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    Default Re: Colman SOLOMON

    This Colman was a furniture broker. So, if he's the one it shoots down my previous theory.



    1871 Census.



    Name: Coleman Solomon Age: 41 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Aldgate, London, England Civil Parish: Aldgate County/Island: London Country: England

    Coleman Solomon 41 Sarah Solomon 39 Hannah Solomon 20 Joseph Solomon 8 Julia Solomon 11 Alice Solomon 6 Rachel Solomon 4 Linscon Solomon 3

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    Default Re: Colman SOLOMON

    I'm tired now and must go to bed. I'll take a look tomorrow at the census returns, and if I find anything I'll let you know.

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    Default Re: Colman SOLOMON

    This looks promising to fit in with my first theory! Soloman, or is he Colman, was a general dealer (which could have transmuted to furniture dealer) And it's possible Matilda and her sister Esther were staying with grandparents on census night. Am I clutching at straws? Probably! But hey anything is possible, I've learned over time to be open minded and not always expect a certain person, to be in a certain place, with a certain family.



    1861 census.



    Name: Amelia Soloman Age: 46 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Soloman Gender: Female Where born: London, England



    Civil Parish: Spitalfields Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch County/Island: Middlesex Country: England



    Soloman Soloman 50 Amelia Soloman 46 Sarah Soloman 21 Rebecca Soloman 17 Tilly Soloman 15 Julia Soloman 14 Hobbey Soloman 7 Joseph Soloman 5 Lizar Soloman 4

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    I really am going to bed now.

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    Dear Slizzy,

    I can't begin to thank you for the effort you put in on my behalf.

    Below is a cut and paste I wrote for someone else but you will see the little bits it gives us about Coleman Solomon.

    What I would give to live in High Road, Finchley, London. With a little bit of luck I would be able to slip next door and into the Beth Din and go through their files.





    No, I don't have a Hebrew Authorisation.

    The only detail comes from Benjamin and Matilda's wedding certificate

    mores the pity is....

    1/ Wedding Registration # 175

    2/ Place; General Registration Office.

    3/ Application; BOO9921.

    4/ Solemized; 9 Bedford Sq. .... Stepney Middlesex.

    5/ Date; 10/2/1875.

    6/ Her name as mentioned on cert. Matilda Solomon.

    7/ Age 20yrs.

    8/ Spimster.

    9/ Rank or Profession; NA.

    10/ Residence of marriage; 9 Bedford Sq. Mile End.

    11/ Father's Name; Coleman Solomon.

    12/ Rank or Profession; Furniture Salesman.

    13/ Married at; 10 as above.

    14/ Wittnesses; Aaron Simmons and Lionel Isaacs.

    15/ Marriage; in Jewish Religion by N. Adler, Chief Rabbi.

    16/ Secretary of Synagogue; Moses Keizer.



    So as you can see that is all I have to do with Coleman and Matilda's Birth.

    Not sure of any siblings. Sorry I don't have a whole lot of info.

    Have a great day, Ray
    Hart, Button, Sowter, Hoffman, Lintenbrink, Tattersall,

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    Default Re: Colman SOLOMON

    Slizzy,

    Sorry I have not written earlier, I have been in hospital for the last ten days.



    I think we have to consider your earlier post shot down. I have a wedding certificate [1875] for Benjamin Hart/Matilda Solomon. This gives her father Colman Solomon as a furniture dealer.

    It is possible Matilda may have been working in another household at the time. I have seen a census giving a Matilda Solomon as a servant for a grocer just before the year of her marriage 1875.

    Best wishes, Ray
    Hart, Button, Sowter, Hoffman, Lintenbrink, Tattersall,

 

 

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