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    Default Boulton and Archer missing from Censuses

    I have two families in my tree which are both missing from the Censuses. I have tried looking under as many variations of the names that I can think of in case there has been a mistranscription and quite frankly I am fresh out of ideas.

    My gt gt Grandfather John Boulton was born in 1831 in Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, son of Edward Tugwell Boulton and Mary. Someone very kindly found the entry for his baptism on 11 March 1832 in the Gloucestershire Parish Records and the record gives Edward's occupation as Brewer although on John's first marriage certificate in 1860 it says that Edward's occupation is Gentleman, and when John married again in 1874 the occupation was Tutor.

    I have found an Edward Tugwell Boulton living in London but he was born Stow on the Wold in 1823 and is, I think, my John's oldest brother. I even sent off for his 1849 marriage certificate and it gives his father as Edward Boulton occupation Brewer (deceased) but the word deceased does not not appear on either of John's certificates.

    I cannot find either John or Edward in either 1841 or 1851 and neither can I find their parents Edward or Mary and siblings Alfred (1829) Mary (1824) Charles (1828). I do realise that it is possible that both parents had died before 1841.

    My other missing family are the Archers Thomas and Martha nee Hyatt (Hiatt) In 1840 when their daughter Anna Maria (Annie) was born they were living in Fisher's Court, Cheltenham but by 1843 when next daughter Mary Ann was born they had moved to St Marys, Southampton. They also had an older daughter Jane born Cheltenham 1835. Thomas was a plasterer by trade but again I cannot find Thomas and Martha in any Census nor can I find their daughters until 1861 when Annie is in Liverpool and Mary Ann is back in Gloucestershire.

    If anyone can help in any way I would be soooo grateful

    TIA

    Emeltee

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    Default Re: Boulton and Archer missing from Censuses

    Edward in 1851. Maria is Mary Russell Bolton's mother. Edward's birth place is a mistranscription - it actually says Stow on the Wold.



    Name: Edwd Sugwl Boulton Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: My Russell Gender: Male Where born: Stewartby, Gloucestershire, England



    Civil Parish: St Pancras Ecclesiastical parish: Somers Town County/Island: Middlesex Country: England

    Edwd Sugwl Boulton 28 My Russell Boulton 33 My Louisa Boulton 1 Maria Smart 63

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    Default Re: Boulton and Archer missing from Censuses

    Thanks for that, Slizzy. He is the Edward Tugwell Boulton born 1823 whom I think is Brother to my gt gt grandfather. It's really his parents I'm after and Edward, John and siblings in 1841.

    Emeltee

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    Default Re: Boulton and Archer missing from Censuses

    John Boulton and Annie Maria Archer are my great great grandparents as well, and I've had the same problems trying to trace the families in the censuses. I assumed John's parents died during his childhood - which may account for his confused recollections of his father's occupation. I had spotted the brother, Edward Tugwell Boulton (who I think may also be the Edward Boulton in 1841 living in Bedford Square, aged 18, as a servant to the Sheddun family of merchants). I didn't know about any other siblings, however. Did you find them in other Gloucestershire baptismal records?



    As for the Archers, I think Thomas may be Thomas Daniel Drake Archer, baptised in Painswick on 26 April 1807. The father of this Thomas was Daniel Archer, who appears as a plasterer at 9 Sherborne St, Cheltenham in Pigot's 1822 Directory. Daniel had three other sons, born in Painswick, Charlton Kings and Cheltenham, also plasterers, who appear in Sherborne St and nearby in a number of censuses. A Thomas Archer, plasterer, does appear in St Mary St, Southampton, in 1841, a plasterer, aged 30. He appears to be a lodger in someone else's house, with no family, but with another plasterer of the same age also lodging there. As Mary Ann Archer was born in North Front, Southampton (which I think adjoined St Mary St) the following year, I think this may well be our Thomas. Perhaps he had come to Southampton to look for work, leaving Martha and Annie back in Cheltenham while he got established. I didn't know anything about an older daughter, however. Where did you get that from?



    Sorry about the length of all this, but I've only just spotted your posting and got rather excited. I've done quite a lot of work on John Boulton and am very happy to have come across you. There is much more to be said!

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    Default Re: Boulton and Archer missing from Censuses

    Hi Uvanya,

    I've sent apm giving my e-mail address so we can get in touch

    Emeltee

 

 

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