Thread: Looking for a Baptizem reocrd of

A Joannis Caviner on church record born in Ireland in around 1751 to 1763 came to England around 1775 80 got married in the Nidd Valley Ripon around 1790 moved to Hunslet Leeds 10 in or about 1791-2 had child named Thomas Caviner in 1793 had daughter named Maria Caviner in 1795 the name is in fact Cavanagh/Kavanagh the named above Joannis is in fact John Cavanagh, but the church record shows him to be named Caviner because it's written in lattin of the time and they couldn't spell our name back then, it's extreamly important to me to find a baptizem record for this John who is said by the records office in Doublin to have originated in Carlow, and may well be the John that disapeared from the house of Boris in the year 1775 and was never seen again in Ireland this was at the time that the English were persecuting the Catholics of Ireland so it's possible for John's parents to have been captured or killed, that or they were the just thrown from their property or had to change their religion to C of E these C/Kavanagh's were the family that had been the King's of Leinster and of all Ireland, and it is indeed from this line that I originate as do many or most of the King's and queen's of England, Scotland, Ireland and Wales this through the Lineage of Eva Kavanagh and her Husband Richard Fitzgilbert De Clare Earl of Clare and of Pembroke Wales, Eva was the sister to Donel Kavanagh in the early part of the 12th century, the first to bare the name Kavanagh, was Donel and he was the son of Diarmaite MacMurchadah.

You have a period of 12 years and a vague idea he may have come from Carlow. I suppose you've checked the IGI?



I hope people with Irish research expertise can offer some guidance.

It is not a vague idea this was from the Irish records office I am also a member of the Clans of Ireland and have been DNA tested, I do know my roots, it is not a vague idea that I have, I have researched this family for the past 10 years, I have helped people who are related to this family, all over the world, I have records that date back some 12,000 years and a full history and genealogy of all the kings of Leinster and all they that came from their descendants, the only reason I don't have this record is because the English destroyed all Catholic records and probably with good reason since they at Boris house in Carlow are most certanly related but do not wish to admit it again with very good reason.

I have searched many records though there are the odd few I havent searched such as the landed gentry records and the aplotment records, I have searched all IGI records, there are other records of will's and land and property I have not been able to check but I have hundreds more records of this family than you might think, which include a full list of all the kings of Leinster from 120AD to 1631 and the last recognised king of Leinster Donel En Spaineigh Kavanagh who was killed in county ross in 1631 and also of Arthur MacMurrough Kavanagh who was an MP here in the house of Parliament he was also named as the limbless wonder because he had no arms or legs, The record I'm after is not able to be found by me because it may not exist any more, however the records office in Ireland have said that I should contact they at Boris which I did and they chose to ignor my letters, the office also said that there are other ways in which to find out who were John's parents through land and property records, I could go on but feel there is no real need since all I need is a baptism record, I have all the other descendants of the family going back from my own father and mother who's family were the McCarthy's of the McCarthy Mor king's of Munster Ireland.

Regards Phil.