Thread: cenus lookup please 1841/51/61

Hi. Sorry about the name but I am looking for Emma Brown

She was born about 1837.

Her age on the 1871 census would make her born in 1837 but the age in 1881 would make her born 1839

On the 1871 census she says she was born in Camberwell but 1881 census says Deptford.

Emma Brown married John Southgate in 1857 and the name of her father is blank, so I presume she didnt know him, so he might have been desceased on both 1841 & 1851 census or at least the 1851 census. She may also never have had a father.

I dont know her mothers name.

On the marriage certificate 1857 she is resident at Grove Lane.

On the 1861 census she would be Emma Southgate, with husband John [John was born in Suffolk].

I would be very grateful for any help here please.

Hi Seeker..



here is the family on the 1861 Census



Emma Southgate

Age: 24

Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837

Relation: Wife

Spouse's Name: John

Gender: Female

Where born: Bermondsey, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Camberwell St Giles

Ecclesiastical parish: St Giles

County/Island: Surrey

Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Registration district: Camberwell

Sub registration district: Camberwell

ED, institution, or vessel: 8

Household schedule number: 432

Household Members:

Name Age

Eliza Plummerydge 64

John Plummerydge 62

Jane Rowland 55

John Rowland 38

Ada Southgate 7 Mo

Emma Southgate 24

Emma Southgate 2

John Southgate 30

Joseph Southgate 13



Class: RG9; Piece: 379; Folio: 71; Page: 75;



address is 9 Caroline Place, Lambeth.

Hi Seeker



there are a few possibles on the 1851 but as I am not familiar with the district I will let someone else have a look.. o

Hi Raven. Thank you for the 1861

Are John and Emma lodgers or does it give a relationship to the other people in the household? I know Joseph is Johns son by a previous marriage.

Emma is now saying born in Bermondsey I presume all these places are very close to each other? Bermondsey> Camberwell> Deptford?

Many thanks

HI seeker I don't know why they are transcribed together... it looked like a separate household..

Ok. Thanks.