Thread: Alfred Kaufman/Elizabeth Kaufman nee Crombie

Hi all,

i am new to the forum and am looking for some help i have been searching websites and record sites but to be honest,,being a motor mehanic i have not got a clue where to look or what to look for.

The problem i have is my wife needs to find her parents DOB's and marriage date for her passport app and for her own info,but they both passed on while she was young and she has no info on them but there names on her birth certificate.

Her fathers name is Herbert Alfred Kaufman and her mothers is Elizabeth Kaufman nee Crombie.

We think her mother is Scottish.

They were living in manchester when my wife was born in 1960,but this is all we know about them.

My wifes name is Carol.

Thanyou in advance for any help or advice.

Regards.

John.

[quote name='jncg']Hi all,

i The problem i have is my wife needs to find her parents DOB's and marriage date for her passport app If she was born in the UK she only needs her birth certificate...and of course her Marriage certificate to prove name change...she does not need her Parents info for a passport and for her own info, For searching her family tree, yes, but does not need it for a passport. Regards.

John.[/quote]





Loz

[quote name='welshlady']I found this marriage entry which at first i thought was her parents but the surname is wrong???



Herbert A Kaufman to CLARKE Manchester vol 10e page 321 1957 June qtr.

quote]



Hi Welshlady



I was unable to access BMD's on ancestry....just wondered if the marriage was an Elizabeth CLARKE and the marriage to Herbert Kaufman was a 2nd marriage?



Obviously her maiden name of Crombie would be listed on jncgs' wifes' birth certificate....



Maybe searching for a Crombie marriage in prior years may solve the issue ( sorry i can't search...have emailed ancestry...cos i aint impressed )



Loz

Hi,

And thankyou for your time and troubles,because they died when she was very young she is not sure of the dates and does not know of any sibling as she spent her life in foster homes,so no adoption papers anywhere,she thinks her mother may have died around 62,63.

Once again thankyou for your help,i have tried finding info and can only admire those of you who can.

Regards.

John.

Lozzie,they changed the passport rules in april 07,you do now need your parents DOB's and they are rejecting applications without these,,,the passport helpline have told us to either send in the app with a note and hope and lose the fee or search evrywhere for the info to make sure the app goes through.

John.

[quote name='jncg']Lozzie,they changed the passport rules in april 07,you do now need your parents DOB's and they are rejecting applications without these,,,the passport helpline have told us to either send in the app with a note and hope and lose the fee or search evrywhere for the info to make sure the app goes through.

John.[/quote]



Hi john



I won't dispute what you have been told...I knew that they were getting really strict on passports so I went onto the website for information.



From the website : http://www.ips.gov.uk/passport/apply...born-in-uk.asp



I was born or adopted in the UK

• before 1983
  
• on or after 1 January 1983
  

I was born before 1983



In this case we need to see your birth or adoption certificate.

I was born on or after 1 January 1983



In this case we need your full birth or adoption certificate showing your parents’ details and evidence of one of your parents’ nationality or immigration status at the time of your birth. That is, either:

• Your mother’s UK birth certificate, Home Office certificate of registration or naturalisation, or her passport that was valid at the time of your birth;
  

or

• Your father’s UK birth certificate, Home Office certificate of registration or naturalisation, or his passport that was valid at the time of your birth and your parents’ marriage certificate.
  

That website has some really useful information on it...including the helpline number that you mentioned. I think that the advisor you spoke to has got their wires crossed as your wife was brn BEFORE 1983.



Maybe a phone call to your local CAB may help....as it also states that money is non-refundable for an imcomplete application.



I would also phone the helpline again and clarify the information needed....maybe you will get someone who understands all the new rules.



Good Luck with your wifes' passport application....and good luck with your research





Loz