Thread: Alfred Thomas Bradley, b. Islington 1890 – d. Hackney 16 January 1969

I have been unable to find ATB jnr, my elusive maternal Grandfather, GrGrdf Alfred Thomas snr or GrGrdm Emma née Miller in the 1891 or the 1901 Census Records. After drawing blanks in and around Islington & Hackney, I extended my search throughout the East End and then looked in Essex, especially near Pitsea, where there seems to have been some sort of family connection. Checking in 1881, there is a faint possibility onSource Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 230; Folio: 87; Page: 23; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341050. The parents look quite good and later, there is a record of the death of baby Emma, aged 1 yr.



Very few stories came down through my Mother:



w apparently, Alfred Thomas snr. & Emma lived separately for a number of years

w my Mother only remembered seeing her Grandfather on ONE occasion when he was clandestinely taken to the house, Alfred Thomas jnr. having given his wife money to take the children out for the day (a very rare event) and was discovered when they returned early – much mayhem ensued, though she was too young to understand the reason. I deduce that this would have been c. 1922

w my Mother, b. 1917, had no recollection of her Grandmother Emma until we visited a local exhibition focussed on the release of Census 1901. One of the displays showed a typical working-class kitchen and she had a sudden flash of memory of Emma sitting by a kitchen range with a green-glass paraffin lamp standing on the high mantelshelf – but that was all. Quite extraordinary, after all those years.

w Alfred Thomas jnr. had at least three sisters; a) [? Alice] Maud m. James Haycock, brother of Alfred Thomas jnr’s wife Esther Elizabeth Haycock, probably in Dec qtr 1909 in Shoreditch b) Violet married Harry Fairman in Hackney in Mar qtr 1922, daur Edna b.1923 Holborn & c) Lilian F [prob. Florence] m. Joseph H W Boxley in Hackney in Mar qtr 1922. (I don’t know their relative ages but surely all would have been born before the 1901 Census?).



ATB is ‘invisible’ from the time of his birth (certificate in my possession) in 1890, through the Census of 1891 and that of 1901 right through until his Marriage on 26 September, 1915 (this certificate is also in my possession). Together with his Father, Mother and three sisters, all known to have been alive until post-WW1, he seems to have vanished in those intervening years!



Has anyone any useful suggestions, please?



Regards to all,

Pam

I don't want you to think you're being ignored. I'm having a look round.

Do you have a marriage for Alfred and Emma? I can't find one on Freebmd. It's possible they never married (which might explain why they separated).

What is the address on ATB junior's birth cert and what is his father's occupation?

This is a facer. If Emma was living with someone else, they might be enumerated under HIS surname, either by accident or on purpose. Without any sightings or ages/birthplaces for either ATB junior's parents or sisters its impossible to do a search and have any confidence in what you find.



Tricky!

A possible deathsfor ATB's sister:



Alice Maud Haycock aged 98



birthdate: 28 Feb 1888



Dec 1986

Chester and Ellesmere Port



so she should be on 1891 and 1901 censuses.

Right. I can't find an Alfred, or a Maud or Alice with the right birthdates =/- a year with Emma any surname on either 1891 or 1901.



There's clearly some big family mystery here!

Alfred BRADLEY Head M Male 25 Essex, England Gas Factory Lab Emma BRADLEY Wife M Female 21 Islington, Middlesex, England Emma BRADLEY Daur Female 1 w Islington, Middlesex, England



8 Sidney Street, Islington

Sorry I can't think how else to look. Nothing comes up using ATB's initials and birthyear.

There's an Alfred Thomas Bradley b 1856 registered in Stourbridge, so that doesn't fit with Essex birthplace 1881.



This is a real puzzler. I wonder if the 1911 census when its released will provide some more clues>