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    Default Census look up please

    1901 & 1891



    Could someone investigate 1901 for this child & family,

    I'd be glad of all the offspring in total. There should be 11 but of course some may be born post 1901



    Emily Groves aged 4 London Southwark Christ Church



    Also the 1891 In case siblings have left home by 1901.



    Thank you very much

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    there are a couple of emily groves in 1901 that could fit eg emily born 1897 st luke, 1898 islington, 1899 islington etc.

    hae you any other details to help narrow her down - eg parents siblings names , occupations etc
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    Hi welsh lady



    If only!



    But I have been given a dob as 16.4.1896



    I really thought the christchurch southwark reference would locate her as she was the only one I found for that,,,,,I do have one sibling name Frances, which is why I want both census details...I expect her to be on the 1891 but may be left home by 1901?




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    Hi Wortle,



    Could this be her born St Luke?



    Name: Emily Groves Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: William Mother's Name: Clara Gender: Female Where born: St Luke, London, England



    Civil Parish: Shoreditch Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Baptist Hoxton County/Island: London Country: England



    Alfred Groves 3 Clara Groves 34 Ellen Groves 5 Emily Groves 4 William Groves 35 William Groves 1

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    I really dont think thats them



    Can someone tell me how the 1901 census works then?



    I have looked up all the Emilys born a couple of years either side of the birth date I was given....I expect them to be in Soutwark.



    The only Emily Groves I can see in Southwark is for "Christchurch"





    So does that break down again into Islington and Shoreditch



    Is there a site which shows how these areas are divided for each census?



    Thanks

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    looking for her birth ref i can find this



    Name:Emily GrovesYear of Registration:1896 Quarter of Registration:Oct-Nov-Dec District:St Saviour Southwark County:London, Surrey Volume:1d Page:2



    but if born april would be registered in earlier quarter.



    the only one born right quarter 1896 is



    Maggie Emily GrovesYear of Registration:1896 Quarter of Registration:Apr-May-Jun District:Hackney County:Greater London, London, Middlesex Volume:1b Page:586



    but wrong area



    this could be siblings frances birth



    Frances Susannah GrovesYear of Registration:1892 Quarter of Registration:Jan-Feb-Mar District:St Saviour Southwark County:London, Surrey Volume:1d Page:93
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    this is that frances on 1901 census



    Frances S GrovesAge:9 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1892Relationaughter Father's Name:HenryMother's Name:SusannahGender:FemaleWhere born:Southwark, London, EnglandCivil Parish:Newington Ecclesiastical parish:St John County/Island:London Country:England Street address:



    Registration district:St Saviour Southwark Sub registration district:St Peter, Walworth ED, institution, or vessel:33 Household Members:NameAgeFrances S Groves9 Henry Groves43 Henry G Groves12 John A Groves1 Susannah Groves37 William J Groves4





    Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 381; Folio: 46; Page: 30.
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    Welshlady I think the Maggie Emily is right!



    I have been told for 30 years that she was called Emily...but her son said to me a week ago Emily Margaret or Margaret Emily...I then said dont you know? and he said he thought his sister had surprised him when she went to register the death, by saying ahe was called Margaret. I emailed the sister last week and she said definately Emily. I quizzed them again....Emily Margaret or Margaret Emily and now she has replied since I posted saying she was sure her Mums name was Emily but actually now I mention it it could have been Margaret or even Maggie Emily! Nobody had mentioned Maggie before, but if theres a Maggie and Frances in the same family it looks like a goer. She also added she thought one of the other siblings names was Bert or Albert...but and this is a bit worrying she took in foster children too so there could be dozens of names. One other juicy bit is that she ran a sweet shop so there may be an occupation to tie in.....



    I'm hoping!



    Thanks

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    Hi Welshlady....could you please confirm Maggie Emily is on the 1901.



    Could anybody do the 1891 for this Family and see if a shop and or an Al Bert is mentioned.



    Thanks

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    going by the hackney birthplace and the fact that she was known as emily i think this is the 1901



    Name:Emily GrovesAge:7 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1894RelationDaughter Father's Name:EdwardMother's Name:EmilyGender:FemaleWhere born:Hackney, London, EnglandCivil Parish:Shoreditch Ecclesiastical parish:St Saviour County/Island:London Country:England



    Street address: 14 witham street



    Registration district:Shoreditch Sub registration district:Hoxton Old Town ED, institution, or vessel:18 Household Members:NameAgeEdward Groves33 (oocupation timber conmanx??????) Emily Groves29 Emily Groves7 George Groves8 Mand Groves2 Mary Ann Groves1 Walter Groves5 Annie Philpott16 (visitor)



    Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 276; Folio: 129; Page: 24
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