Thread: 1851/61 census. Looking for baby Henry!

I am looking for Henry Bradford Rider birth reg March 1849 at Bermondsey on the 1851 /1861 census.

His name is too much of a coincidence not to be one of mine



Many thanks

Do you know the names of his parent's?

Hi Thersa. I dont know who his parents were but if he belongs to my Rider family, his father would most likely be either Henry or Frederick.

On the 1851 census I can only find one Henry Rider born Bermondsey



Name:Henry John RiderAge:4 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1847Relation:Son Mother's Name:EllenGender:MaleWhere born:BermondseyCivil Parish:Shoreditch Ecclesiastical parish:Haggerstone West County/Island:Middlesex Country:England Street address:



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Condition as to marriage:



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Registration district:Shoreditch Sub registration district:Haggerstone West ED, institution, or vessel:23 Neighbors:View others on page Household schedule number:43Household Members:NameAgeEllen Rider26 Henry John Rider4

Thank you Theresa but I dont think thats him. His name should definatley be Henry Bradford Rider[ Ryder]. He will probably turn out to be as elusive as the rest of his family. I cant see a death registered for him

Could this be him, in the 1851 census?



Class: HO107; Piece: 1483; Folio: 250; Page: 24



St James Parish, Westminster



15, Wm & Mary Yard:



Henry Rider, Head, married, 44, labourer, b Hayes. Middlesex

Hannah Rider, wife, 43, born Stanmore

William Rider, son, 13, ditto

Henry Rider, 5, b Paddington

Thomas ??? (diff to read - poss Clements) visitor, 9, b Hayes

Its harder to find him in 1861, but in almost the same address as in 1851 is:



Westminster, St James, 14, William and Mary Yard



Henry Rider, 53, Head, chaff cutter, born Hayes Middlesex

Harriett Rider, wife, 52, b Stamforth

Jane Rider, daughter, unmarried 20, born St James, Westminster

Henry Rider, son, errand boy, born St James, Westminster

Charles Kitching, unmarried, lodger, 22, carman, b St James, Westminster

James Eldridge, ditto, unmarried,chaff cutter, Middlesex



It looks as if Henry's first wife had died and he has remarried (either that or her name has been recorded incorrectly). If it is a second marriage then Jane could be the daughter of the second wife, and simply Henry's stepdaughter.

Sorry, forgot to enclose reference for above:



1861 Class: RG9; Piece: 61; Folio: 36; Page: 4

Hi Somerset. I think Henry might be too old here, but his birth might have been registered late. Are Paddington & st James Westminster near Bermondsey?

4.7 miles, according to Google