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  1. 14-09-2008 06:57 AM #1
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    Default Morris Hart - who was his wife.

    Hi Genners,

    I was just looking at an ancestry of another person whose tree has a connection with mine.

    I see that we both have a Morris HART b c1879. He was married but the wife is listed as unknown. Now that is a red rag to me so.....



    who was this woman? I guess she was born around her husband's year of birth. She is also listed as having 2 boys and 4 girls.



    Morris was the oldest child of Daniel and Elizabeth Hart.



    There are 5 marriages listed in FreeBDM but I am not sure which one it would be, if any.



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    Default Re: Morris Hart - who was his wife.

    Hi Hawks,



    Your friendly neighbourhood Raven here.



    Can you give me a district where you think they were married and also the age of the eldest child?



    Thank you



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    Default Re: Morris Hart - who was his wife.

    Hello my ravenous Raven friend.



    No sadly the info is a print out from the Genes Reunited site. And of course you would be aware that on that site you have the option of just writing in "Living Relative" and gender.

    I will go back to my source and ask, but hold little help.



    Wishing you good hunting, Hawk. [of the land of OZ]
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    Default Re: Morris Hart - who was his wife.

    UPDATE.

    1/ Who ever our lady was she seems to have had two marriages.

    a] Morris Hart no marriage dates given.

    b] Bernard Garaty no marriage dates given.

    2/ There seems to be 9 children last born Marie 1913 Clapton.



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    Default Re: Morris Hart - who was his wife.

    Hi Hawks,



    I have been having a wee squizz around.. I have found Morris on the 1901 Census still living at home with his parents Daniel and Elizabeth.



    1901 Census



    Morris Hart

    Age: 22

    Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879

    Relation: Son

    Father's Name: Daniel B

    Mother's Name: Elizabeth

    Gender: Male

    Where born: Whitechapel

    Civil Parish: St Botolph

    Ecclesiastical parish: St Botolph

    County/Island: London

    Country: England

    Street address: 69 Mdx St.

    Occupation: Fishmonger

    Condition as to marriage: single

    Education:

    Employment status:

    Registration district: London City

    Sub registration district: St Botolph

    ED, institution, or vessel: 1

    Neighbors:

    Household schedule number: 161

    Household Members:

    Name Age

    Daniel B Hart 41

    Elizabeth Hart 47

    Harry Hart 12

    Joseph Hart 11

    Julia Hart 19

    Morris Hart 22

    Ray Hart 19

    Zalig Hart 24

    Annie Smith 40



    Class: RG13; Piece: 262; Folio: 24; Page: 39.



    Have checked on Freebmd and Ancestry for a marriage for Morris Hart 1901 -1910 and at the mo cant see anything... but will have another look.



    Could you get me the date of the eldest child birth and roughly where born, please.. might help narrow the search down...

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    Default Re: Morris Hart - who was his wife.

    Raven,

    I have been beavering away on this one most of today, and come up with the almost identical info. I was really hoping against hope that you just might tell me about his bride.

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    Default Re: Morris Hart - who was his wife.

    lol Hawks would love to..

    Was just having a wee thought... if this particular woman was married twice could some of the said 9 children be from her previous marriage??
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    Default Re: Morris Hart - who was his wife.

    Presumably this is them on the 1891 Census as the occupation for Daniel matches up...



    1891 Census



    Name: Daniel Hart

    Age: 40

    Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851

    Relation: Head

    Spouse's Name: Elizabeth

    Gender: Male

    Where born: London, England



    Civil Parish: Christchurch

    Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch

    County/Island: London

    Country: England

    Street address:

    Occupation: Fishmonger



    Condition as to marriage:

    Education:

    Employment status:

    Registration district: Whitechapel

    Sub registration district: Spitalfields

    ED, institution, or vessel: 7

    Neighbors: View others on page

    Household Members:

    Name Age

    Daniel Hart 40

    Elizabeth Hart 39

    Elizabeth Hart 16

    Hervey Hart 3

    Joseph Hart 2

    Julia Hart 9

    Motes Hart 12

    Rachel Hart 7

    Zalid Hart 14



    Class: RG12; Piece: 274; Folio 30; Page 8
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    Default Re: Morris Hart - who was his wife.

    Hi Hawks

    Marriage 4th quarter 1912 Hackney 1b 871 Bernard Garaty to Maria Burns

    B Garaty died 1917 in WW1 (see CWGC site)

    Marriage 1st quarter 1922 Shoreditch 1c 134 Maria Garaty to Morris Hart

    Daughter Marie you mentioned was Marie M Garaty 3rd quarter 1913 Hackney 1b 843 mmn Burns

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    great stuff Gillian...
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