Hi y'all



How ya dooin'?



Does anybody know of a link between the



Butler/Boteler/Botiler family the Earls of Ormonde in Kilkenny, Ireland

Theobold le Botiller Chief Butler of Ireland. d 1205. His father is supposedly Walter Hervey



and the



Butler/Boteler/Botiler family the Lords of Wem, Shropshire.



One has to assume that both the families originated in France, where the join should be.



Any suggestions will be welcome.



Best wishes



Mark