Thread: lost the old's!

hi, need some help please, my great grandparents have dropped off the radar, looking for Maud louisa Wass born 1884 Colchester essex, married Frederick joseph Sach also of colchester in 1909. who were their parents ?

and also Herbert richard welham and Ellen Emily Barford married 1901 also Colchester. and any info on leonard Thomas Hoole born 1904) and his wife Josie (Gibralter 1906) married in 1928 thanks

Hi Elizabeth,



I am looking for the rest, but maud is proving hard to find



Leonard Thomas Hoole Death Aug 2002 Colchester essex aged 98 Birth date 9 Aug 1904 Registration number:B81C Entry Number:248



Birth details for cert.

Leonard Thomas Hoole 1904 July/aug/sep Hendon Middlesex Volume 3a Page 378



There was no possible marriage for him but it may well be on find my past, which im afraid i dont have credits for, maybe someone else can try to locate that for you.

I will carry on trying to find the others for you, but at present i have a 9 month old who is being a pain in the bum

By the way my GG grandmother was Florence elizabeth hoole any relation

1891 census



this is the closest one i could find



Name: Ellen E Barford Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: William Gender: Female Where born: Colchester, Essex, England



Civil Parish: Lexden Ecclesiastical parish: Lexden Town: Colchester County/Island: Essex Country: England











Registration district: Colchester Sub registration district: Colchester Second Ward



Ellen Arnold 24 Gertrude Arnold 5 Ellen E Barford 14 Emma Barford 53 Herbert A Barford 16 William Barford 55 Emily G Swan 24

1891 Census



Name:Maude L WassAge:6 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1885 Relationaughter Father's Name:RobertMother's Name:Mary AnnGender:FemaleWhere born:Myland; Colchester, Essex, EnglandCivil Parish:Ardleigh Ecclesiastical parish:Ardleigh County/Island:Essex Country:England Street address:







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Registration district:Tendring Sub registration district:Ardleigh ED, institution, or vessel:5 Neighbors:View others on page Household Members:NameAgeEdith E Wass9 Mary Ann Wass34 Maude L Wass6 Robert Wass34



No Luck with 1901

Hi I think this could be your frederick Sach



1881 census 189 Bromley road, Colchester



William Carey 50 Widow Born Colchester

Harriet Sach 23 Housekeeper

Walter carey 17 Woodmans Labourer

Arthur carey 15 Bricklayer

James Carey 12

Frederick Sach 1

Joseph Sach 22

All Born colchester, William Carey was Harriets father, so thus making him Fredericks Grandfather. Mistranscribed as Sache



1891 Census 18 bromley rd Cottage



Joseph Sach 30 Founderymans labourer Born Colchester

Harriet 32 Born Parson Heath Colchester

Frederick 11

Lucy 8

Louisa 6

Agnes 4

Arthur 3



All born parsons heath Colchester. Mistranscribed as Sack



1901 census 176 bromley road Colchester

Joseph Sach 43 Born colchester

Harriet 44

Arthur 13

Albert 9

John 7

Eliza 4

All born Colchester



1901 Census for Frederick

garrison Colchester.

Frederick Sach 21 Born Colchester .



Under the rest of the people on the page it said a corporal, so i would assume he was a soldier.



I hope i have found the right family if not i apologise.

But it was the closet one i could find to frederick

Hi Elizabeth, I think this is Frederick Joseph's birth! The original record definitely says SACH.



Name: Frederick Joseph Sace Year of Registration: 1879 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Colchester County: Essex Volume: 4a Page: 386

Hi, Herbert Richard Welham's birth?



Name: Herbert Richard Welham Year of Registration: 1877 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Sudbury County: Essex, Suffolk Volume: 4a Page: 473

1881 Census.



Name: Herbert R. Welham Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878 Relation: Son Father's Name: Richard Mother's Name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Nayland, Suffolk, England



Civil Parish: Nayland County/Island: Suffolk Country: England



Street address: Bear St Occupation: Scholar



Registration district: Sudbury

Sub registration district: Bures





Agnes R. Welham/6/dau/Nayland Suffolk

Benjamin Welham/2/son/Nayland

Florence E. Welham/5/dau/Nayland

Herbert R. Welham/3/son/Nayland

Richard Welham/35/head/ploughman/Gt. Hocksley Essex

Sarah Welham/27/wife/Boxted Essex

Thomas Welham/8mnths/son/Nayland

William C. Welham/8/son/Nayland



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1891 Census.



Name: Herbert Welham Age: 13 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878 Relation: Son Father's Name: Richard Mother's Name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Nayland, Suffolk, England



Civil Parish: Nayland With Wissington Ecclesiastical parish: Nayland Town: Nayland County/Island: Suffolk

England





Name Age Alice Welham 2 Benjamin Welham 12 Bertie Welham 5 Eva Welham 3/12 Herbert Welham 13 (bricklayer's assistant) Percy Welham 4 Richard Welham 45 (miller's carman) Rose Welham 8 Sarah Welham 37 Thomas Welham 9 William Welham 18 (carter)



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1901 Census.



Name: Herbert Welham Age: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878 Relation: Son Father's Name: Richard Mother's Name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Nayland, Suffolk, England



Civil Parish: Colchester Ecclesiastical parish: St James County/Island: Essex Country: England

Alice Welham 12 Daisy Welham 6 Eva Welham 10 Harry Welham 8 Herbert Welham 23 (baker's breadmaker) Percy Welham 14 Richard Welham 56 Sarah Welham 46 Tom Welham 20

thank you so much, you are wonderful