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    Trying to trace Frederick Angel born Winfrith, Dorset 1863 last found on 1881 census working as a dairy boy and lodging with William & Georgina Bullock at East Knighton, Winfrith, Dorset. His brother George was in the Army and Frederick was shown as his next of kin but with a note 'address unknown'.

    Also trying to trace Lucy Ann(ie) Angel born Winfrith, Dorset 1871 last found on 1891 census when she was working as a domestic servant at Winterbourne Steepleton Manor House (village approx 5 miles west of Dorchester, Dorset).

    Have tried all avenues I can think of with no success.



    Any help would be appreciated

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    Hi rayharris185,



    I can't find a frederick born 1863 but there is a Fred born 1865. Would this be him in 1891.





    Fred Angel Age:25

    Estimated Birth Year:abt 1866

    Relation:Head

    Spouse's Name:Bessie N

    Gender:Male

    Where born:Winfrith, Dorset, England

    Civil Parish:Bere Regis

    Ecclesiastical parish:Bere Regis

    Town:Bere Regis

    County/Island Dorset

    Country:England

    Street address:



    Occupation:



    Condition as to marriage:



    Education:



    Employment status:



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    Registration district:Wareham Sub registration district:Bere Regis ED, institution, or vessel:5 Neighbors:View others on page Household Members:NameAge



    Bessie N Angel 25

    Fred Angel 25

    Fred W Angel 3

    Reginald J Angel 6 weeks





    Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1644; Folio 50; Page 4; GSU roll: 6096754





    Occupatation = Farm Labourer

    Address = Ryehill

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    Marriages Dec 1887 (>99%)



    ANGEL Fred Wimborne 5a569

    Warr Bessie Rebecca L Wimborne 5a569

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    Births Mar 1865 (>99%)



    Angel Fred Wareham 5a326

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    1901 Census



    Fred Angel Age:33

    Estimated Birth Year:1868

    Relation:Head

    Spouse's Name:Bessie

    Gender:Male

    Where born:Winfrith Newburgh, Dorset, England

    Civil Parish:Canford Magna

    Ecclesiastical parish:Canford Magna

    Town:Broadstone

    County/Island Dorset

    Country:England Street address:



    Occupation:



    Condition as to marriage:



    Education:



    Employment status:



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    Registration district:Poole Sub registration district:Canford ED, institution, or vessel:1 Neighbors:View others on page Household schedule number:143Household Members:NameAge



    Fred Angel 33

    Bessie Angel 33 /Lytehett Matravers, Dorset

    Fred W Angel 12 /Sturminster Marshall, Dorset

    John Angel 10 /Wallis Down, Dorset

    George Angel 7 /Bere Regis, Dorset

    Amelia R Angel 5 /Sonerspuddle, Dorset

    Harry Angel 2 /Waterloo; Pool, Dorset

    Alice May Angel 3 months /Waterloo; Pool, Dorset







    Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1977; Folio: 16; Page: 24.



    Address = Plainfield

    Occupation = Ordinary farm labourer

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    Sorry no luck with Lucy, but maybe someone esle might have a bit more luck

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    Sorry to disappoint but this was the original route I went down only to find it was the wrong person. His parents are completely different from Thomas & Martha Angel who are the Frederick's mother & father.

    The family story is quite unusual.

    Frederick was born George Frederick. There were 6 children - 2 died of typhoid at the ages of 2 & 5. The mother and father both died in their mid 30's and the children George 14, Frederick 11, Harriet 6 and Lucy 3 had to go and live with their maternal grandparents. George (my g.g.grandfather)joined the Army in 1881, he also died in his mid 30's in 1895 - 6 months after my grandfather was born. Harriet married in the the late 1890's and her record has been no problem.

    Because my grandfather was only 6 months old when his father died very little information has filtered down.



    Regards

    Ray Harris

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    From the IGI -

    Lucy Annie Angel christening 1 Feb 1872 Winfrith Newburgh Dorset parents Thomas & Martha

    Lucy Angel christening 8 Nov 1875 Winfrith Newburgh Dorset parents John Angel & Amelia

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    Deaths -

    Sep 1873 Thomas Angel age 36 Wareham 5a 167

    Dec 1874 Martha Angel age 36 Wareham 5a 204

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    Lucy daughter of Thomas & Matha is the correct one.

    On the 1891 census her surname is spelt Angell, it's after 1891 that she seems to disappear.



    Ray

 

 

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