Thread: Help Needed Please - Danville Mystery in Cornwall

Hello,



My family name of Danville has finally hit the brick wall....I have traced back to Frederick Danvile (1830 - Falmouth I think) he married Martha Rattey in the same place. They had Frederick J in 1854, he married Eliza Benbow...these were the ones who travelled north to Hull. Both died young and their children were in the hull Workhouse or orphanage. I can find no further evidence of the 1st Frederick (i.e. his birth certificate) in the UK.....BUT....there has always been a family thing about being related to someone french, but now I am soooooooooooooooo frustrated



Any help on my possibly Gallic relations would be superb - if they are ordinary tin mine folk then so be it, I'll just be happy with SOME info...



Ta!



Ellie

Hi Ellie,



Birth registration in England did not start until Sept 1837. If he was born in 1830 there will not be a birth certificate. You will need to find someone that can look in the parish records for you. Alternatively, you could try looking in the links and tips forum. If you put " Cornwall " into the search engine you will find some parish records.

Hi Ellie, Is this your family?



1861 England Census

about Frederick Danvoll



Name: Frederick Danvoll Age: 36 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Martha Gender: Male Where born: London, Middlesex, England



Civil Parish: Westminster St Anne Ecclesiastical parish: St Anne County/Island: Middlesex Country: England



Street address:



Occupation:



Condition as to marriage:



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Registration district: Strand Sub-registration district: St Anne Soho ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 167 Household Members: Name Age Frederick Danvoll 36 Frederick J Danvoll 7 Martha Danvoll 33 William R Danvoll 5

Hello,



thank you both for your suggestions and help!



I guess that could be my relative....I hadn't thought much about how to look for a possible difference in spelling *duh*



I am back on the trail



ta!

Ellie

Hi Ellie, This looks like william (Frederick's brother) in 1901



Name: William Danvell Age: 46 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: St James, London, England



Civil Parish: St Pancras Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Evangelist County/Island: London Country: England



Occupation: General Labourer





Registration district: St Pancras Sub-registration district: Tottenham Court ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 256 Household Members: Name Age Amelia Danvell 15 Constance Danvell 25 Emily Danvell 19 Frederick Danvell 23 William Danvell 46

I wish these damn rellies of mine would stick with the same spelling!!



I guess that they can be misunderstood if things are handwritten in the records..



thanks for your efforts once again..



Ellie

Yes Ellie, unfortunately the enumerators wrote what they heard, and as many of our ancestors were illiterate they were unable to know wether what the enumerator wrote was a correct spelling. I've not given up on the Danv???????l's yet, but got sidetracked helping someone else tonight. I'll look for them again tomorrow, or Monday.

Ellie, have you seen this birth record on the IGI? Note the spelling!



FREDERICK JAMES DANAVEL

26 MAR 1854 Christening: 11 JUN 1854 Saint Leonards, Shoreditch, London, England



Parents: Father: FREDERICK DANAVEL

Mother: MARTHA

Do you have a record of Frederick and Martha's marriage? If so can you post details, as I can't find it anywhere. This is the nearest I can find??? This Frederick appears to have married either Martha Rockley, or Jane Stafford.



Marriages Mar 1853 (>99%)DONEVEL Frederick St Giles 1b423 MORIARTY Cornelius Strand 1b423 ROCKLEY Martha St Giles 1b423 STAFFORD Jane St Giles 1b423 WEST James Hart St Giles 1b423

William Robert Danaval (IGI)



04 APR 1856

Christening: 27 APR 1856 Saint Anne Soho, Westminster, London, England



Parents: Father: FREDERICK DANAVAL Mother: MARTHA