Thread: Benjamin Howson 1782 - 1847

Hi Guys



Needing your help again!!



I am trying to locate Ben on the 1841 Census, hopefully in SHeffield....but could be anywhere..and could be born anywhere



What I DO know is that his son Benjamin was born in yorkshire c 1802/03. The son Ben married Harriet Whitely in sheffield July 1825 in the Parish Church of Sheffield and was "of this parish".



Young Ben was widowed in 1837 and remarried in 1841...aged 38 and gave his father as Benjamin Howson - Grinder



Now i have a burial at St Peters on 31st Dec 1847 for a Benjamin HOWSON -Grinder aged 65 residing at Burgess Street Sheffield, and am presuming (YASE I know I shouldnt presume!! ) that this is young Bens father



BUT I can't find Old Ben on the 1841



I cant find a death reg for young Ben either...but can only find him on the 1841 with his sons lodging at Bailey Street, Sheff and listed as being only 30! lol but his remarriage a few months later lists him as being 38



Hope you can understand me rambles...and hope you can help



Thanks in advance



Loz

Hi Lozzie,



What's the name of young Benjamin's second wife?

Hi Slizzy



Young Ben's 2nd wife was Mary Hall born c1820 her father being Charles b c1794 Ecclesfield. Mary died in May 1844, and her daughter Elizabeth HOWSON is living with her grandparents Charley & Elizabeth HALL on the 1851.



Thanks in anticipation



Loz

Sorry Lozzie.............I'm having no luck tracing either of the Ben's on the census, nor tracing their deaths. confused:



I haven't given up yet though



Slizzy

young Bens son was Joseph HOWSONbrn c 1832 sheffield..I have him on 1841 / 61/71/& 81 ...the only onemissing is the 1851



I have just spent 2 hours searching the 1851 for him...hoping that he would be lodging somewhere with his dad, young Ben ......... but NOOOOOOOOOooooooooooo



lol i have looked at almost 5000 indexes on ancestry and still not found himconfused:



Think i might put these peeps to bed for a while



Thanks for taking a look any way Sllizzy...your expertise is always welcomed





Loz

Well i didn't put it to bed for long!!



These peeps are really bugging me!



Now I have found the following information....but it's not quite piecing together as I hoped it would do



In the Hallamshire Cutlers index I have found the following:



John, son of Benjamin of Kirkstall Forge a fender Grinder: John was apprenticed to George Whitham, filesmith in 1812.



THEN....after help from another site, Kirkstall Forge has links around the Leeds/Wortley/Barnsley areas..



on the IGI I have found the following Baptisms:



Benjamin 22 Aug 1802 Horsforth, Yorkshire

Ann 2 Jun 1805 Horsforth

Sarah 16 Mar 1800 Horsforth

Mary 13 Sep 1807 Horsforth



Horsforth being in the registration district of Hunslet, which included the area of Kirkstall. All of these children had Benjamin as father ....but no other info.... and John with father as Benjamin is not to be found on IGI..



The Baptism for Benjamin 1802 fits in with his age on 2nd Marriage in 1840.



Witness to Bens 1st marriage in 1825 in Sheffield was a Hannah Howson....



ALthough Ben was listed as "of this parish" of Sheffield...so i presumed () he was born Sheffield, I have since learnt that you only had to reside in the parish for 3 weeks to be " of this parish"



I know that i am clutching at straws again.....and it still doesnt solve the missing census......just thought someone may be able to shed further light on any of the above info



Thanks in anticipation



Loz DD

Hi Lozzie,



I've been looking at your Benjamin's again, and something ain't right You have young Ben marrying Mary Hall in 1841, however Freebmd has him marrying in 1840? Here's the ref.



Marriages Sep 1840 (>99%)HOWSON Benjamin Sheffield 22442



Now if the Freebmd record is correct, and bearing in mind you found young Ben with his 3 sons in 1841, where was Mary, and why wasn't she with Ben and the boys?



Sorry to add to the confusion Loz, but we need to establish facts to get any further.

You have probably seen this registered death Lozzie, but incase not here it is.



Name: Benjamin Howson Year of Registration: 1862 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Ecclesall Bierlow County: Derbyshire, Yorkshire - West Riding Volume: 9c Page: 139 (click to see others on page)

This Benjamin was a FENDER MAKER in 1861, the years are out though, but maybe there's some connection.



1861 England Census

about Benjamin Howson



Name: Benjamin Howson Age: 67 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1794 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Esther Gender: Male Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England



Civil Parish: Nether Hallam Ecclesiastical parish: St Philip Town: Sheffield County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England



Street address:



Occupation:



Condition as to marriage:



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Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow Sub-registration district: Nether Hallam ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 166 Household Members: Name Age Benjamin Howson 67 Elizabeth Howson 69 Esther Howson 62 Hannah Lam 49

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They're on the 51 mistranscribed as HODSON.

Hi Slizzy



Young Bens 2nd marriage was in 1840 lol I checked this out at the archives



Mary Hall aged 20 (1841) was listed with her parents on the 1841 Census.....still using her maiden name



Following Charley Hall onto the 1851 Census....Ben & Mary daughter, Elizabeth Howson, was living with her grandparents.



The Benjamin you have found on 1851 & 61, I think he must be from another branch of the Howsons, his age being consistent to 1794, too early for my Ben



Thanks for your time once again



Loz